The House of Commons library has just released the briefing paper for the debate on forced adoption, which is taking place tomorrow. MPs will also ask the government to apologise for the practice.
Calls to extend the debate beyond forced adoption practices in the 1950s and 1960s were ignored by MPs leading this debate, despite overwhelming support from families, social workers, academics and reformers.
This is a disappointing result, but perhaps MPs will consider hosting another debate in the not too distant future on forced adoption practices in the 21st century…
You can read the briefing paper, which is an 8 page report, here.
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Calls to extend the debate beyond forced adoption practices in the 1950s and 1960s were ignored by MPs leading this debate, despite overwhelming support from families, social workers, academics and reformers.
This is a disappointing result, but perhaps MPs will consider hosting another debate in the not too distant future on forced adoption practices in the 21st century…
You can read the briefing paper, which is an 8 page report, here.
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Ian Josephs said:
And in 50 years time as Sir James Munby (,retiring President of the family court) himself said “they will be apologising then for what we are doing now !
Let me add to his wise words the certainty that even worse deeds will be done at that time in the future which they will ignore while apologising for the misdeeds of their forefathers! (US!)
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Dr. Manhattan. said:
“Calls to extend the debate beyond forced adoption practices in the 1950s and 1960s were ignored by MPs leading this debate”.
Well i think we all knew they would not look at todays Forced Adoption Scandal. but then the big question is why.
could it be many of them have shares in Adoption & Fostering agencies which generate millions of pounds profit every year. Nice little earner they would like to protect.
They should be locked up for turning their backs on this Human rights Violation.
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Maggie tuttle said:
YOU ARE CORRECT
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eugene1957 said:
sure first adopt as much as possible. also foster, after apologise in 40 years time
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Roger Crawford said:
This is indeed, very disappointing. Much easier to apologise for things done in the past than face the reality that they are still being done now. Hope it makes them feel all warm inside.
I very rarely use strong language, but I hope they will find themselves in a very hot place in due course.
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Maggie tuttle said:
no one will ever get an apology, it will be more meetings and more money for the meetings, and what of the millions spent on legal teams by the families in the closed family court will they get an apology or their money back let alone their kids, they do not need meetings all of the time they all know the truth of the child abuse plus the police have been made to shut up of the corruption, and if any thing the nation needs an apology from the elite,
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Maggie tuttle said:
Blair heads adoption shake-up – Telegraph
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/1378485/Blair-heads-adoption-shake-up.html
Dec 17, 2000 – AN overhaul of adoption laws to be announced this week will aim to sweep … Tony Blair has taken personal charge of the reforms after hearing …
Jack Straw set to gag chidren from complaining from abuse when in …
https://www.indymedia.org.uk/en/2009/02/422314.html
Feb 17, 2009 – Jack Straw is proposing to open The Family Court to media & press but at … our facebook group here Stop Jack Straws Gag Order Openness of The … New Approach (effectively gagging children from conmplaining of abuse, …
Blair and Straw were great mates do we need to say any more
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Dr. Manhattan. said:
“Adoptions have plummeted since the 1960s, when there were more than 20,000 a year, compared with the current average of about 2,000”.
it would seem the 1960s Adoption racket was booming at an alarming rate.
Re the Jack straw story.
“giving courts the discretion on who should be able to attend, is the right one”.
that was the fundamental Straw flaw right there. Corrupt judges and their associates from the SS and Cafcass would have been rubbing smug little their hands.
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Dr. Manhattan. said:
Typo.
rubbing their smug little hands.
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Maggie tuttle said:
foster care has taken over so of course adoptions have dropped but its all money, and all government say is that babies were taken due to young girls not being married
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Dr. Manhattan. said:
Yes they will say that because they dont possess a shred of Empathy.
no feelings for Human suffering at all.
thats why most of them engage in blood sports shooting defenceless animals and birds.
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Ian Josephs said:
MY LETTER TO ALISON
Dear Alison,
My name is Ian Josephs and I actually invented the phrase “forced adoption” in 2002 and named my website http://www.forced-adoption.com accordingly. I give free legal advice to parents whose children have been taken (2 or 3 every single day for 15 years !)
You must receive many letters re the coming debate so I will lay out some of the bullet points that I believe to be important for your easy reading:-
1:-Almost ALL of the 5000+ adoptions happening annually in the UK are contested by parents who say they love their children and want to keep them
2:- Babies are very frequently removed at birth not for anything parents have done but for “risk of future emotional abuse” ;The majority are then adopted and the mothers never see them or hear from them again even if they die.
3:-Babies and young children are removed from sane law abiding mothers because of “risks from previous partners”, “depression problems“(cleared up years ,previously),the baby results from a rape but the mother wants to keep it,the mother was in care herself and therefore has no experience of parenting ,unstable chaotic lifestyle (mothers is a traveler etc),past criminal record of a partner (that did not involve children) etc etc
4:-Research in the USA has shown that “Open adoptions “ where parents at least know who is adopting and where their children will live so that they can still have limited face to face contact, have better results for children than closed adoptions where children lose all forms of contact with birth parents mostly for life.
5:-The adoption and fostering industry makes millions of £s for agencies (eg The national fostering and adoption agency founded and then sold by two social workers recently for £130 million) and for private special schools costing 3 times what it cost to send Prince Harry to Eton!The overall cost of children in care to the government is over £2900/week per child !
6:-We have laws to remain civilized,but what is the point of them if a law abiding mother who has never been given so much as a parking ticket can have her baby removed for adoption because of future risk from her,a former partner,or someone else? Surely that is “punishment without crime”.It is absurd and cruel to tell a mother whose baby has been taken at birth for forced adoption that she is not being punished !Child cruelty or neglect are crimes that should be left to trained police rather than social workers formed to support parents not fight them in court for their children to be adopted.
I hope that these points can be of use to you.I also hope you can press for the abolition of forced adoption.The UK is still the only country in Europe to tolerate this on a large scale (despite Sir James Munby’s dictum that “adoption should be a last resort when nothing else will do”) largely sidestepped by other judges interpreting “nothing else will do” to cover minor failings by parents. In some other EU countries it has appeared but is still used rarely
I wish you well in the debate and do hope it will focus on present failings rather than apologies for past transgressions !
IAN JOSEPHS ian@monaco.mc
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Ian Josephs said:
How many adoptions are there in the UK each year?
In 2014, the Department of Education revealed that the numbers of adoptions in the UK had increased by 63 per cent in the previous three years, from 3,100 in 2011 to 5,050 in 2014.
According to the Adoption Register for April 2016 to March 2017, 72 per cent of the children waiting to be adopted were two years or older.
The briefing papers claim only 2000 adoptions per year but have no source or evidence of this ;unlike my figures above quoting 5000 adoptions in 2104 stats from the Department of Education !
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Maggie tuttle said:
Children to the slaughter, how true because the lambs to the slaughter have been in their thousands watching the football or thousands marching through parliament for Brexit then thousands watching tennis and now more then 100,000 plus marching against TRUMP, so who will march for the stolen children who are being abused in every way, NO ONE the British have always been known as a cold blooded nation, and the Governments knowing this will continue to have meetings and meetings all going no where only to more pounds to send off shore
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dick100 said:
thanks for this Natasha.
However, the practice of pressurising “Unmarried Women” to hand over their “Illigitimate” children before and the mother and baby homes that ran it, before c. 1970 is not strictly what has been called Forced Adoption.
This what has subsequently happened, seizing children threw the Care system and then legally through the courts making them adopted against the will off their families.
This arose after 1970 as the supply of babies for adoption dried up. Now styled Unmarried Mums they began to keep their children, hence the present practice.
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Natasha said:
Thanks for your comment.
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