Having been very kindly alerted by one of our lovely readers to a Freedom Of Information request made in 2012 about false or misleading statements within social work reports in the UK, we decided to do a very quick search to see what other requests in this area have been made, and there have been several.
The one that caught our eye though, is, arguably, the most recent FOI request on this topic, and features the now infamous Walsall Borough Council (those of us assisting families will be very familiar with this borough).
The request for information was made in 2014, and is entitled, “False statements or reports from social services (aka) SS”. The question is as follows:
18th August, 2014
Dear Walsall Metropolitan Borough Council,
We are compiling research taking into account ICO guidelines and
DPA and wish the following information regarding children’s social
services.
From research many parents have complained that reports compiled by
social services are “inaccurate”, “false” or “misleading”. It has
been reported by parents that these reports or statements are not
allowed to be amended,despite evidence of reports or statements
being incorrect, contra to ICO guidelines and the DPA.
It appears that the complaints process is not been adhered by the
LA across the UK and all that happens is social workers say “we
will hold your letter on file stating our records are inaccurate”
Should the matter go to court, it has been reported that the LA
provide courts with the inaccurate reports or statements but fail
to give the courts letters by parents to show records how and why
the reports are inaccurate.
We wish to know under the FOI for the last 24 months
We refer to any written paper work compiled by social services or
any person working on their behalf.
1) How many parents have in the last 24 month period have
complained that social workers reports or statements are
inaccurate, misleading or false or any words to the same effect.
2) How many times have social workers or managers refused to
correct reports or statements?
3)How many times have social workers or managers said they would
put letters on file proving reports are inaccurate?
4) How many of the said reports that are inaccurate, misleading or
false have been used in court?
5) We have been told that notes of inaccuracies are added to the LA
computer system. Should any notes of inaccurate, misleading or
false statements or reports be applied on the LA’s computer system
does these full notes of inaccuracies show up if any other
professional prints out or reads data. Do professionals show these
notes to courts that the reports that they are giving the courts
are proven to be inaccurate.
6. Are their any laws broken by making false reports and if so
what? How many social workers have been caught making false
reports?
Yours faithfully,
Mr k Hopkins
What is interesting about this question, and distinguishes it from the first we link to above, is that unlike the request made in 2012, this newer request actually receives a more substantial answer, which offers information about complaints. The response to the first request, which is made to Torfaen Council rather than Walsall Council, offers no data and says there have been no complaints, which many would find hard to believe today. Walsall Council though, are more upfront and offer the following response, albeit a very long overdue one (for which they apologise and take the trouble to reassure the author of the request that the delay was not by design, though they offer no explanation for it and also don’t offer the name of the person responding to the query).
Here is Walsall Council’s response:
26th November, 2014
Dear Mr Hopkins,
Further to your request for information about false statements or reports from social services, please accept my apologies for the lengthy delay you have experienced in being provided with a full answer to your questions.
I can however, now tell you the following details:
How many parents have in the last 24 month period have complained that social workers reports or statements are inaccurate, misleading or false or any words to the same effect.?
The Customer Care Team has advised that their records show there have been 33 cases of parents complaining of inaccurate, misleading or false statements in social care files. There may be more complaints, but if they have not been submitted through the formal complaint process, then this information is not captured centrally and not readily available. To find any further instances would require every social care case file to be reviewed manually. It is considered, that to provide any further detail would exceed the appropriate limit and is therefore exempt under section 12 of the FOI Act.
The FOI Act provides that in answering your request the Council can consider the ‘appropriate limit’. This part of the Act states that the Council can estimate the likely cost of complying with your request in order to decide whether it must reply. S.12 of the Act refers to the Fees Regulations which provide that where the Council estimates that the likely cost of responding to a request will exceed £450.00 there is no obligation to provide the information requested, free of charge.
In this case the amount of information held by the Council is extremely high and therefore I have estimated that to review all of the information held would clearly exceed the set limit. This is because as well as the large volume of social care records, it is not possible to easily identify specific concerns relating to accuracy of records within each case file as such issues may have been recorded in a number of forms within the records.
How many times have social workers or managers refused to correct reports or statements?
In total, out of the 33 reported cases of parents complaining about inaccuracies in social care files, the service area refused to amend 13 reports or statements. This documentation was not amended, as it was considered that they were accurate and contained no false information. As detailed above, this information has been provided by the Customer Care Team and relates to those complaints that have been made through the formal complaints process. There may be more instances, but if they have not been submitted through this process, then this information is not captured centrally and not readily available. To find any further instances would require every social care case file to be reviewed manually. It is considered, that to provide any further detail would exceed the appropriate limit and is therefore exempt under section 12 of the FOI Act.
3) How many times have social workers or managers said they would put letters on file proving reports are inaccurate?
This information is not held centrally and would require each social care case file to be reviewed manually. Therefore it is considered, that to provide any further detail would exceed the appropriate limit and is therefore exempt under section 12 of the FOI Act.
4) How many of the said reports that are inaccurate, misleading or false have been used in court?
Social Workers complete many different kinds of reports in connection with court proceedings. PARIS assessments and reports shared with families can be and are amended if inaccuracies are highlighted throughout any involvement with that family.
Once a report is submitted to a court, that document then belongs to the court. Any issues or disagreements with a report that emerges throughout the court process, can only be rectified through that process. All those that are party to the court proceedings have the right to highlight any inaccuracies directly or through legal representation.
To identify how many court reports were amended throughout court proceeding would exceed the appropriate time limit. To find any such instances would require every social care case file to be reviewed manually. It is considered, that to provide any further detail would exceed the appropriate limit and is therefore exempt under section 12 of the FOI Act.
5) We have been told that notes of inaccuracies are added to the LA computer system. Should any notes of inaccurate, misleading or false statements or reports be applied on the LA’s computer system does these full notes of inaccuracies show up if any other professional prints out or reads data. Do professionals show these notes to courts that the reports that they are giving the courts are proven to be inaccurate.
When any new case notes are added to or amended on the PARIS system they are visible to all relevant social care staff. Amended notes or newly added notes are available to read and print to all relevant staff and therefore would be available, if required for any court proceedings.
6. Are there any laws broken by making false reports and if so what? How many social workers have been caught making false reports?
If a social worker intentionally provided false information in a report this would be viewed as a serious disciplinary matter and the appropriate council disciplinary procedures would be followed.
In addition any social worker found to be falsifying records would be in breach of the BASW Code of Ethics for Social Work, which could result in a referral to the Health Care Professions Council for further investigation.
This could result in a social worker not being able to continue to practice.
Most of the information that we provide in response to Freedom of Information Act 2000 and Environmental Information Regulations 2004 requests will be subject to copyright protection. In most cases the copyright will be owned by Walsall Council. The copyright in respect of other information may be owned by another person or organisation, as indicated.
You are free to use any information supplied to you in response to this request for your own non-commercial research or private study purposes. The information may also be used for any other purpose allowed by a limitation or exception in copyright law, such as news reporting. However, any other type of re-use, for example by publishing the information in analogue or digital form, including on the internet, will require the permission of the copyright owner.
I hope that the information provided is useful to you. However, if you are dissatisfied, you should set out in writing your grounds for complaint and send to: Information Risk & Governance Manager, Business Change, Civic Centre, Darwall Street, Walsall WS1 1TP.
If you are not content with the outcome of your complaint, you may apply directly to the Information Commissioner’s Office (ICO) for a decision. Please remember that, generally, the ICO cannot make a decision unless you have first exhausted the complaints procedure provided by the council. The Information Commissioner can be contacted at: The Information Commissioner’s Office, Wycliffe House, Water Lane, Wilmslow, Cheshire SK9 5AF.
Yours sincerely
Information Rights Officer
Program Delivery & Governance
Business Change
The response above highlights several issues in this area. One, is that there is clearly very little effort at documenting what most people would consider to be important information which goes to the heart of child protection and good service provision generally and whilst we appreciate it takes time to log details and make sure files are accurate, and the current climate makes it harder for social workers and other professionals to devote more time to admin, good computer software in the form of a digital filing system should sort that out fairly quickly. Another concern is that false reporting, dishonesty and lying are only dealt with under non legal regulations in the form of ethics guidelines, which isn’t good enough. It may be that legislation should be put in place to change the culture inside the system and send out the message that intentionally falsifying records is a very serious matter and will not be tolerated.
Another important observation to make in relation to these kinds of queries are the significant numbers of complaints about poor reporting which would be made if it weren’t for the fact that families are terrified of raising concerns about inaccuracies within reports. A defensive culture which rails against parents’ concerns and questions makes it impossible for families to enter into any kind of constructive dialogue with the very people who are supposed to be supporting them and finding solutions to often very difficult problems. In reality, the number of complaints about social work reports will be much higher than the actual number recorded – we often advise parents not to complain to local authorities during the life of their cases because we know it will almost always result in families suffering prejudicial outcomes, and we know many lay advisers who do the same.
Dishonest reporting is a fascinating area, which we would love to write a research paper on.
What are your thoughts on dishonest social work reports?
A very big thank you to Dana for alerting us to the Torfaen Council FOI request.
Forced Adoption said:
In the recent child abuse case involving Marie Black and others ,police evidence on oath was given to the effect that a social worker had admitted to making 286 alterations to court documents before the hearing in order to “remove any leading questions put to the children ” and to “remove anything that might incriminate the Foster carers” ! The culprit was neither called to the court to be questioned nor was he prosecuted for perverting the course of justice !
Marie repeatedly asked to testify herself to deny the accusations but was not called by her “defence team”.The judge refused to allow Professor Conway to give evidence for the defence concerning the possibilities of false memory syndrome.
What chance did Marie have after all that??
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tuppennyblue said:
We have a recent judgment against Walsall from McFarlane LJ, an appeal of a judgment which in itself is quite scathing of the LA. Efforts are being made to get it all onto Bailli.
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maggie tuttle said:
http://www.childrenscreamingtobeheard.com/children-screaming-heard-conference/
Please read from the link this is one conference with guest speakers from around the world with concerns of the child abuse in the UK there is one speaker with so much evidence and names on thousands of corrupt social workers, this is one gentleman who has spent many years just researching the social workers and boy will he blow the whistle, we also have evidence of the lies told by a LAC reviewing officer, but all will be told on the day of the conference, then we can put the Governments to shame who love to say (In a child’s best interest) and continually allow social workers who are paid by the tax payers then take kids on allegations only then use and get paid by their own companies to do assessments its a conflict of interest, but then the British kids are a multibillion pound industry creating millions of jobs, there were 2 social workers sorry not social workers but called them self’s S/W working illegally in Essex also with false passports one having been employed for 15 years, I wrote to both MPs for Thurrock JACKIE-DOYLE-PRICE AND STEPHEN METCALFE asking for a public enquiry and that children taken into care on allegations to be returned to their families until the enquiry was finished, and here we have evidence of 2 MPs like the rest sit and debate get their untold money and expenses and do sod all (In a child’s best interest)
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tuppennyblue said:
Will your conference have speakers promoting the Hampstead Hoax, or talking about “Satanic Ritual Abuse”, Maggie? We’d like to come but won’t have any truck with that stuff.
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maggie tuttle said:
My days left on this planet is for the children screaming to be heard and can say hand on heart until a few years ago I was one of the worlds millions who believed the British kids were the safest in the world how wrong I was, I continue to learn that kids are being abused in every way where ever but it is only with research evidence for the truth that I will ever speak out not from hear say only. And at the conference I am not speaking we have to many high profile speakers some from the Netherlands and a British police officer, all I can say is people must learn and research for them self’s then know truth and help the poor little children screaming to be heard.
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tuppennyblue said:
Can we have a straight answer, please? Those who conflate their own agendas in promoting non-existant “Satanic Ritual Abuse” are doing serious damage to the work against Forced adoption done by serious campaigners over many years. Justice for Families will not share a platform with those who promote this fantasist nonsense. Cards on the table, please. Which side are you on, Maggie?
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ladyportia27 said:
With respect tuppennyblue -what has Maggie’s OPINION on Hampstead got to do with the conference?
Maggie cannot speak truth in law on this as she was not there.
has anyone ever spoke of invisible Satan at these ritual abuse sessions? No
Were you present in Hampstead/? because if not in law your words are mere hearsay.
Its human beings who do the raping, abusing etc .
No doubt there are those who fear talking about the dark side of humanity, but its not all love and light.
Our dark side is coming to light for us all to see what child abuse was and is like.
Cognitive dissonance has no place in 2016.
When the truth of the Roman Church raping and abuse of children came to light – most of the cult members carried on as if nothing had happened.
One old woman told me when I asked her why? What else is there.
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maggie tuttle said:
Social worker in UK “illegally” for 15 years (From Echo)
http://www.echo-news.co.uk/…/11012955.Social_worker_in_UK__illegally__for...
14 Feb 2014 – A SOCIAL worker hired by an agency that supplies councils and health trusts across South Essex has been accused of working in the UK illegally… … of social workers over allegations he worked while being an illegal …
and here in the link is the evidence, is all aware that social workers from a third world country can pay a few pounds for a hooky CV and also receive many thousands of pounds for re-allocation and support with housing and banking, wow its a big business down to the tax payers
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daveyone1 said:
Reblogged this on World4Justice : NOW! Lobby Forum..
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Roger Crawford said:
I understand there is no speaker either promoting, defending, or railing against Satanic Ritual Abuse at this Conference – it is fully realised that there have been many witch hunts against families over the years, from Orkney to the Scilly Isles via Rochdale, on false allegations perpetrated by social workers and others. Today we hear of a four-year-old being branded a ‘terrorist’ for mixing up the words ‘terraced’ (as in house) and ‘terrorist’, and drawing a picture of a cucumber and a knife (to cut the cucumber up). Maggie is well aware of all this nonsense, and would have absolutely no patience whatever with those who abuse kids in this way. I acknowledge that she gave a ‘politician’s answer’ to the question, but that is Maggie having difficulties with the English language rather than being deliberately evasive.
Maggie and I have our differences but I can assure anyone that she has learnt better than most of us to distinguish between fact and fiction.
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tuppennyblue said:
My concern stems from the event in Camden at the Theatro Technis on 5th November last year, “The UK and EU Dimensions of ‘Forced Adoptions’”. http://www.theatrotechnis.com/show.php?id=262
One of the topics was “Satanic Ritual Abuse – the worst imaginable evil by the Global Elite?”
I note that Maggie spoke at this event, lending the Children Screaming to be Heard name to it, and sharing a platform with members of the lunatic fringe such as Neelu Berry.
(If anyone has any doubts about the complete insanity of Neelu and her associates, I must insist that they watch this before commenting: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J1c4LlbNKCo, and then take it up with Roger the Eight Foot Butterfly and Mother Sekhmet).
So you can reassure us that none of this nonsense will be going on at THIS ‘Children Screaming To Be Heard’ conference?
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maggie tuttle said:
BLOODY AMAZING ACCORDING TO YOU BOTH I CANNOT REPRESENT THE CHILDREN SCREAMING TO BE HEARD AT ANY CONFERENCE WHAT SO EVER WOULD YOU ALSO ACCUSE ME IF I HELD A CONFERENCE IN A LOO YES YOU WOULD COME AND PULL THE CHAIN. PLEASE REMEMBER IAN JOSEPH ALSO SPOKE AT THE SAME CONFERENCE AS YOU HAVE STATED IN YOUR LINK SO HAVE YOU RIGHTLY OR WRONGLY ALSO ACCUSSED BOTH IAN AND I. I WARN YOU NOT TO ACCUSE IAN JOSEPH HE IS A GOOD MAN FOR THE CHILDREN AND WILL ALSO BE SPEAKING AT THE CONFERENCE IN APRIL SO STOP YOUR ACCUSATIONS AND BE CAREFUL WHO YOU ACCUSE. I ALSO ASK YOU PLEASE NOT TO ATTEND THE CONFERENCE IN APRIL IT IS FOR THE CHILDREN SCREAMING TO BE HEARD NOT FOR IDIOTS
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Dana said:
In an effort to be transparent there should be recordings of any meetings and they should by typed up and signed along with any statements, in the same way that police record an individual.
As regards information written down about you it’s all down to the interpretation of what you say by the person writing the report. What they choose to emphasise or what they gloss over at the time. It’s also about how you present yourself and the authors prejudices. It’s easy to write Mother angry and threatening …a risk…when her child has been taken into care! On another day and a different scenario she would behave differently but that may not be mentioned as that is the norm and what is out of the norm is recorded.
To give you an example, in a simple one to one discussion with a hospital consultant investigating a medical problem of mine, whatever I said was jotted down. After I left the hospital, a letter was sent to my GP advising him of what was discussed, a selection of significant medical history, and what was the best way forward for the future and a follow up appointment.
A copy was posted to me too. As I read it I could see some glaring mistakes. They were not deliberate but some the information was wrong and other parts certainly misleading. Would it affect the outcome of my treatment? Possibly.
That information is now held on a central data base that others have access to. It has been sent to my GP, data now held locally and accessed by others within the practice. Even if I was able to tell the consultant of the errors, amendments may or may not make their way to all copies/data bases. No doubt they will remain as first written somewhere.
The information stored can affect you in the future in other ways. Insurance and the Family Courts to name two.
At one time doctors didn’t even send a copy to you so anything could be written and never challenged. We have all see the Carry on Doctor type who thinks everyone is a blithering idiot! He is unlikely to change his language in his writings if it’s not seen by anyone other than the close circle he was in, who knew and excused the character he was. Nowadays that is not the case.
It should be noted that historical documents including medical info are used against parents or extended family by social workers. They are often accessed by experts of the court to try to find damming evidence to prove you are unfit to look after your child/grandchild. Since these documents were never seen by the person they were written about they could not challenged if they were wrong yet they are accepted as fact by family courts!
All incorrect information recorded historically or current needs to be challenged.
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Bridget Doman said:
In a meeting with SS some years ago I tried to explain the problems my children and I were experiencing on our estate, along with some of the neighbours, at the hands of local kids. I recalled an incident which had occurred a couple of months before in which several children were causing a disturbance and some of the neighbours went outside to confront them; also, that the police were called. When I read the resulting report it said that it was my children who had been causing trouble, that the neighbours had phoned the police on me and, hinting when that hadn’t worked, that I’D been confronted by a group of angry neighbours. Nothing was ever changed and that was presented to the court when SS were applying for an interim care order. They lied and twisted the facts from the outset. I have experience of taking minutes at meetings. They are supposed to be experienced. It was clear that wasn’t the case. And that was only the beginning of their lies. They wouldn’t know the truth if it hit them in the face.
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myra sandars said:
Hello Dana. I have just come across your post and although it is old felt that I must reply. I could not agree more. My daughter was involved with children’s social services sometime ago, a new experience for us both, and her children were placed on a Child Protection Order. I was appalled by the unfairness of the process and by two things in particular : that five years of serious domestic abuse was pushed aside and very very worrying were the inaccurate, biased, twisted, false reports produced by “the professionals”. All written to a narrative with facts omitted or included or made up to fit the criteria. No amount of complaining or protesting made any difference. Those reports are presumably now filed somewhere as factual accounts, which they are not. I am a retired “professional” too and would be ashamed to have been involved in the exercise.
I am now helping, by chance, a friend trying to gain contact with her Downs Syndrome adult son in care and horrified to find that Adult social services have the same ” we are right and you are wrong ” attitude. Again the reports were full of errors, false assumptions, misunderstandings, omissions etc and at one meeting were openly cruel to my friend in order to demolish her very reasonable arguments and she could not then express herself due to her distress.
I was sort of amused to note that ,in the case of both my daughter and my friend, when these supposedly accurate reports were prepared social workers involved could not even spell their surnames correctly !
But what can be done about this ? I am certain the problem is widespread and I agree absolutely that everything should be recorded and statements signed by the “victim”. This would surely regulate behaviour on all sides. I am sure members of the public generally assume that social workers do a difficult and worthwhile job (and often they do ) but would not suspect that often underhand methods are used to achieve the course of action they have decided on or to defend their own actions.
Are you someone who is involved in any campaign or similar ? If so, I would like to help.
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Natasha said:
Dear all, thank you for your comments. We’d just like to add a couple of points, and we would be very grateful if posters could take these on board:
In relation to the conference organised by Children Screaming to be Heard – as far as we understand it, this conference has not been set up to look at cases of alleged satanic abuse but to explore ways in which children’s voices inside the system can be heard more effectively. If attendees decide to bring up satanic abuse, or any other topic for that matter, this will be their prerogative, as part of a democratic country which allows free speech (notwithstanding the need to respect the law). If people do not wish to attend an event because they think they might hear a point of view which does not please them, that is also their prerogative.
This blog is also a place which allows free speech and will not tolerate posters trying to stifle that right in any way (notwithstanding any legal/ reporting restrictions). We all have differing views on various topics, and we all feel strongly about certain issues, but we must allow people their point of view. If people wish to discuss a point of view, that is something different. Polite discussion is welcome on this blog, as long as it remains respectful.
And finally, Researching Reform has no official stance on the issues arising out of the recent satanic abuse cases, as we have not been involved with the cases and therefore do not feel we can comment.
Many thanks.
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maggie tuttle said:
Thank you Natasha, I hope your comment does not fall on deaf ears.
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tuppennyblue said:
Maggie, please don’t condescend to ‘warn’ me… Presumably that is a threat of some sort? What are you warning me might happen?
I am sure Ian Joseph didn’t speak about babies being delivered to Christ Church Hampstead by TNT having their heads cut off and converted into burgers at McDonalds. Ian is a good man, but he really should consider whom it is sensible to share a platform with.
Of course, all the baby eating at McD’s is Sabine and Neelu’s stuff, isn’t it? I guess they won’t be speaking at your next conference, because they’ll both be in jail for witness intimidation and perverting the course of justice. That’s two speakers you’ll have to replace.
Are you REALLY trying to tell me that you think Neelu is sane? If so, please put it down in black and white so everyone can see it.
Will Mother Sekhmet be attending in her spaceship, by the way? Is she on the speakers list? If so, I might change my mind about attending! Maybe she can cover for Neelu and Sabine?
Ms Justice Pauffley was abundantly clear in her judgment on the Hampstead Hoax that those who seek to promote it are either “evil” or “foolish”, so why do you continue to do so?
It was a shame about your Theatro Technis “conference” to impress the Euro MP delegation which came to research Forced Adoption, but I don’t think they knew it was on. At least, they didn’t seem to when JFF spent over an hour and a half addressing them in private in a committee room at Parliament the following day.
New keyboards with working caps locks are cheap on eBay by the way!
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Natasha said:
Please keep your comments civil.
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tuppennyblue said:
Sorry if I write too forcefully, but, judging from the block caps, it’s Maggie who is “Screaming to be Heard”, and I don’t take kindly to being threatened and called an “idiot”.
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Natasha said:
That’s alright, there is a polite notice in place for everyone, above.
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maggie tuttle said:
what is it with you that you think you can just accuse people and half of who you name I have no knowledge, and for the last time I am not involved in any Hampstead case what so ever so go and get your facts right, I have been made aware of you and ????from families who have called my help line over a long period of time but i did nothing and in reality i should have done some thing, but as I said my fight is for the children and so what I may know of you and Hampstead goes over my head as I will say again my fight is for the children to have a voice,
FROM YOUR COMMENT
Are you REALLY trying to tell me that you think Neelu is sane? If so, please put it down in black and white so everyone can see it.
I DO NOT KNOW THIS PERSON
FROM YOUR COMMENT
Will Mother Sekhmet be attending in her spaceship, by the way? Is she on the speakers list? If so, I might change my mind about attending! Maybe she can cover for Neelu and Sabine? I DO NOT KNOW THIS PERSON
FOR WHAT EVER REASONS YOU HAVE AGAINST ME THEN SUE ME, AND I WILL INFORM YOU THAT YOU ARE BANNED FROM MY CONFERENCE ON
CHILDREN SCREAMING TO BE HEARD.
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[Name Withheld] said:
I had my dealings with care proceedings many years ago, SS obtaining a full care order to remove my children (then aged 11 & 12) from my care until they reached 18. I was shocked to learn how much these people, in collusion with other ‘professionals’ involved, lie and twist the truth from the outset to build up a case against the parent(s) to achieve removal. If this is the only way in which they can win care orders then it is clear that if they told the truth this wouldn’t happen. It is further true that when one complains to the LA, it is extremely hard to obtain the right result – ie an admission of guilt, just that mistakes were made – meaning a cover-up. Wrongdoings by sws and others involved in the care system, such as physical abuse carried out against the children by care workers, is swept under the proverbial carpet. The truth is the last thing the courts want to hear. Parents, and children, are treated appallingly and natural reactions to such treatment by either are used against them. If one ‘professional’ lies, and the others are quite aware of this but say nothing, then they too are guilty of withholding evidence along with perjury. I do have proof of such lies.
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Natasha said:
Thank you for your comment, and we’re sorry to hear about your experience. For legal reasons we have had to remove your name from your post, for which we apologise.
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[Name Withheld] said:
Could you let me know what the legal reasons are for withholding my name? My case ended 15 years ago so am rather puzzled. Due to various reasons my youngest was happily and willingly returned to me by SS 18 months after obtaining their full care order (Jan 2001); my eldest followed just over a year later. Thanks.
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Natasha said:
Thank you for your post. The reason we edit comments relating to children or parties to a case stems from the reporting and legal restrictions in place which do not allow us to publish details of minors or parties to cases which are either live or have injunction-style orders attached to them. As we do not know all of our posters’ personal circumstances, we have to be cautious. This is to ensure that the blog is not shut down, as it remains first and foremost, a platform for families to come and air their views, something we take very seriously and consider to be the heart and soul of the blog. I hope that helps.
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Bridget Doman said:
I understand. Thanks.
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Yannis Emmanouel said:
I dont think that Maggie is stupid enough to allow non sense about satanic abuses Hamstead nonsense, because if this happens this will be a carry on rather than a serious conference.
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tuppennyblue said:
That was exactly what I was hoping to hear from her, Yannis, and indeed the reason why I was concerned about attending. IF there is a debate as to whether SRA exists or not, it has absolutely nothing to do with Forced Adoption, and I don’t want to see all our hard work over the last decade tarred with the nutter brush. There seem to have been some bizarre suggestions that the Forced Adoption system exists to provide children to Satanic abuse groups; this seems to me to be a clear case of the tale growing in the telling and the product of a rather disturbed imagination trying to join up imaginary dots.
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[Name Withheld] said:
I have personally experienced false, misleading and inaccurate reports done for court. These reports were done intentionally and have been detrimental to the child. The said child is now at serious risk but will be until the time my appeal is granted.
I must add, the actions of one particular social worker was also hidden from the local authority too. The said social worker has history of this is neighbouring boroughs before my case and has now moved on to another borough where I believe will repeat her failings.
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Natasha said:
Thank you for adding your thoughts, we’re sorry to hear you’ve also experienced this, the points you raise are hugely concerning. As with other posters, we have had to remove your name for legal reasons, apologies.
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Dana said:
Let us not forget Cllr.Malcom King who was fired for raising concerns about social worker caseloads.
http://www.communitycare.co.uk/2014/12/03/councillor-fired-raising-concerns-social-worker-caseloads-attacks-inaccurate-report/
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Yannis Emmanouel said:
I want to know why sabine Mcneil and Belinda Mckenzie are going to speak on this conference? have they done enough damage already?
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Natasha said:
Could I ask posters to stick to the topic of the post above, please.
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Lucille said:
This happens in all county’s and country’s regarding social workers it needs researching in each and everyone of them
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Bridget Doman said:
Errors in reports are never replaced by the correct information when pointed out by the parent for example. I would like to put forward the following point for consideration: when ‘inaccurate’ reports are produced for the courts, it is always the word of the social worker or whichever professional is responsible that is taken over that of the parent. Think! Was that person a witness to the event(s) in question? No, then they can’t possibly know exactly what happened. Anything they do say regarding what they claim someone has told them is hearsay. That would never be allowed in any other court. When parents’ complaints are investigated, even with proof there is never an admission that lies were told; or in my case “some of the information given to the court wasn’t strictly correct.” Another point (based on my experience): solicitors are unwilling to carry out checks that can prove the ‘professionals’ have got it wrong, let alone lied. Reason? Being in the same business they have all known each other for years. PLUS they are all paid by the local authority.
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Maggie Tuttle said:
in answer to all regarding corruption of social workers it is a true fact that an illegal S/W on oath in court said to the judge I am sorry I cannot answer your questions I do not understand English, this was a S/W who after more then one hour dragged a child in front of many witnesses from the school playground with out a court order and sent the child into the unknown, and had the court read her statement of the day along with the statements from the headmaster and parents then the court would have known the truth of yet another hooky S/W so it just goes to prove that some of the judges are also illegal or cannot be bothered to protect a child who is just one of thousands sent into the unknown by lies all for money.
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Bridget Doman said:
Most of these judges are as bad as the sws and other ‘professionals’ who lie to take children into care. Some months after SS had won a care order to take my children into care I wrote to the court explaining that lies had been told. The response I received showed they couldn’t care less. I was disgusted.
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Kez Challenor said:
They do it because they can…each social worker has there “SUPPORT NETWORK” that being police officers removing the children into protective custody ..and a judge to gain the court order ..all in the name of promotion it seems ..
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Susannah said:
Warwickshire council have done this to my family too in 4 reports and refuse to change a thing
It’s contempt of court but professional are getting away with it
Outrageous
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Yvonne flynn said:
Hi.
I have a friend who is actually fighting this problem at the moment.
I think its hard enough having to co-operate with social services and social workers full stop.
Social workers are meant to help vunerable families.
Making false misleading wrong reports is devastating to families when they remove the children just to get a few brownie points. The social worker should be struck off at once
Y.A.FLYNN BURY
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[Name Withheld] said:
CPS took my 2 kids and lied in court making false report to keep my kids from me and now I’m going through it again because they took my newborn son from me in the hospital when they told my ssa that works with me I can take my baby home since now I have 24/7 care but it’s on hold cause they didn’t do that and now I have to wait and with my other 2 kids CPS lied saying I didn’t take my son [edited] to the er when he had pink eye and I did twice and when he had bronchitis I took him there I want my kids home I didn’t do anything wrong
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meme said:
Natasha, did you do a research paper on this,please
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Natasha said:
Hi Meme, I’m sorry, I’m not sure what you mean. I don’t usually produce research papers in the academic sense, but have written about this phenomenon often.
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MeMe said:
Hi Natasha, it was just that you had said “ Dishonest reporting is a fascinating area, which we would love to write a research paper on.”
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Natasha said:
Hi MeMe, I think I meant if I were to be an academic, but thanks for your query.
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[Name Withheld] said:
I’ve had the same issue from [edited] Childrens Trust 1 social worker lied in a section 47 report. Portrayed me as a perpertrator or domestic abuse and this swayed the whole decision making process to due defamation of character. she did not liase with me or ask re allegations. This happened in [edited] and effects outcomes of referals to this day. my son continues to be abused because they ignore referals as malicious . my son is 8 now and speaks out himself about abuse, he told police, 4x social workers and teachers but still they ignore him because of that report and assume its a lie and m making him say it . i have a police report proving that i was not charged arrested or even interviewed about the allegations because my ex partner was caught lying by police the next morning when they asked her to give an interview. case was marked as N.F.A within 12 hrs She contradicited every single accusation eg: I was not allowed to leave the house….reply from police: but you were at a family wedding during the day which you attended without husband : yes: in the end she got her self in such a web of lies she said…i was not happy with my marriage and thought by calling the police they would help me get a house. (perverting course of justice) i had this in writing from a police disclosure report i got from the family court when getting access to my son. The social worker was informed of this but she ignored this and totally lied. this would have proved i was innocent and my ex was a manipulative liar. Instead the wrote I am worried that Ms xxxx was a victim of domestic abuse. and ignored the fact that my son had been burnt 2x in mothers care in 15months. They put him on a child protection plan under risk of emotional harm due to previous d.v therefore conflict between parents. I complained i was told my concerns were noted,, i got a written apology and was told records would be updated but they were not., Most recently another social worker has lied in a court ordered section 7 report. she stated me writing that i received an apology was incorrect…(even though i have it in writing), she lied about my son being discharged on one visit to walk in centre with no concerns but failed to mention he was prescribed with thread worm medicine. she wrote the previous social worker was removed off case because i threatened her but i have every interaction recorded and it was actually because i complained about the social workers misconduct to directors of [edited] trust. she lied during a home a visit saying she witnessed my son say and do something but she was actually repeating something a previous social worker wrote that my ex told her but as if though it was herself. SOCIAL WORKER ARE CORRUPT EVIL LIARS.
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Stephen said:
Iv been recording a social worker because or unborn child has Been put on a child protection order be cause of my past iv been in a realashoship for 3 years no dv no drug use its all histrionicall past not present I need help and advice please can people whom can help get involed
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Natasha said:
Hi Stephen, I’m so sorry to hear about this. Your current record has to be taken into consideration so being free of DV and drug use is for three years is significant. This rights booklet from the Children and Families Truth Commission, of which I’m a team member, offers all your rights in one place and has a resources which may help you. https://www.scribd.com/document/540849076/Children-and-Their-Families-Have-Rights. If you need free legal help you can also get in touch with Advocate: https://weareadvocate.org.uk/ I hope this helps a little.
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Sick of local authorities lies said:
Barnet local authorities do the very same thing. The low in court
They bully you to say you need to agree to what we say so we canove farwaes or you lose. They let you theae things our side the courta levavimg you with no other options to lie with them and agree to thier lies to keep your child. They get away with so much and very little is done . Staff at Barnet social services very nasty people
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myra sandars said:
I have posted a reply in response to Dana’s comment on misleading social services reports. But perhaps I should have posted it generally. However, is anyone able to tell me if there are any means to make these concerns more public and if there is any organisation or campaign trying to do so ? Many thanks to you all.
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