Welcome to another week, and apologies for our absence, work has been a little busy.
Our question this week focuses on child rights.
As the system still struggles to understand children and how their wishes belie important needs, we wanted to ask you: in what ways do you think the system could truly put children first?
The Children could be put first and indeed adults who are in care or ineed of a care order by LISTENING to what they want this is a good article and i quote We must maximize this chance to radically improve the child protection and care system for children and their families.
This is essential helping the children and their famillies stay together where possible financially even if the family has a live in state apointed carer or 24hr care coming in its cheeper than children in care being ripped from their famillies and causing long term damage.
Click to access Putting-children-first-delivering-vision-excellent-childrens-social-care.pdf
‘Putting Children First’ is its central recognition that relationships and long term social connection is the cornerstone to child and family welfare.
Parents and social workers and all professionals should really put children first and last every time. The courts should be gone in childprotection cases but if a criminal offence has been committed then these are the right courts to deal with the crimes then all cases should have a system like scotland the scottish childrens hearing system where children get a say and volunteers decide the childs fate sadly social workers ban children from these hearings and the panel listen to social workers.
The children are still screaming to be heard and one day i hope to see true justice for them.
http://www.childrenscreamingtobeheard.com/
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My experience has taught me one very important lesson. During an in-depth investigation into one particular case which led to a knowledge of many others, there was one apparent recurring problem. It was that the family courts were not doing their job in dispensing Justice. They were prone to believe whatever social service (SS), expert witnesses employed by the SS or Cafcass put forward as their version of their truth. It became obvious that those organisations were in control, they could issue statements under oath which the courts never or infrequently challenged. They were helped in this theatrical deception by the solicitors, barristers and others within the legal profession. Many of whom were happy to sell their clients, the parents, down the river to avail themselves of the financial rewards they claimed for little real defence work.
An example of this was in one case, and I am sure not an isolated incident, the courts accepted DNA evidence that a man, who denied twice he was the father, was indeed the father of the child. However, in the same case the mother’s irrefutable DNA evidence that she was NOT the cause of her daughter’s incurable genetic disorder was not accepted by either the SS, Cafcass, a medical consultant who was not qualified in genetics and the court just let this ride when challenged by the mother.
Between this and a challenged plethora of lies put forward by the SS and Cafcass the courts just waved these through without comment.
Yes there are children who require protection, but those organisations at present in charge of the system are wholly incapable of being trusted with the lives of any child Corruption is the order of the day in the family courts, where the emphasis is put firmly in the hands of those with no interest in Justice. It is a system which dispenses fairground crystal ball justice wrapped in shiny paper and presented as the truth. The life and rights of the child and parents is ignored. No legal system which allows hearings to be heard in private behind closed doors (secret), with no jury, a restriction on publishing the findings and only one judge is inherently open to serious abuse.
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Hello John, When you say
“My experience has taught me one very important lesson. During an in-depth investigation into one particular case which led to a knowledge of many others, there was one apparent recurring problem. It was that the family courts were not doing their job in dispensing Justice.”
May i ask in what way you were involved in this case ?
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First and foremost listen to family’s arsking for help at an early stage. Do not judge one family to another walk in families homes as an equal. Mostly bring your head out of the book and breathe some humanity .in saying that nolige is power and the only real way to gain nolige is time and age I believe if you have this you will hear a lot more than the children’s voice. Equally important is talking to the children not the advocate not the gardians not the social workers. Family members a teacher a friend if the child is 8 and over with someone from the local authorities. This way you will hear from every angle when you all discuss this together. Children have this agency voice it rubbish how is a child in care foster care going to pick up telephone and do this they do not have mobiles they will feal ASHAMED in front on career and may be haven’t the cares that will incurrange this so this set up is just for show.famlieys are reliying on independent advocates and social workers gardians there not independent until this terrible disastrous disfunsonal system is completely changed completely this country and are families should live in fear I don’t say that lightly
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HOW TO PUT THINGS RIGHT
1:-We need a simple change in the law to stop children being taken from parents when no crime against them by parents has been committed and allegations of such crimes have been dismissed.Punishment without crime should be eliminated from our legal system..After all Police arrest those who have committed crimes not those who they believe just might commit crimes next year !
SECTION 31 CHILDREN ACT 1989 is The worst ever Act of Parliament re children
)On the application of any local authority or authorised person, the court may make an order—
(a)placing the child with respect to whom the application is made in the care of a designated local authority; or
(b)putting him under the supervision of a designated local authority F1. . ..
(2)A court may only make a care order or supervision order if it is satisfied—
(a)that the child concerned is suffering, or is likely to suffer, significant harm; and
(b)that the harm, or likelihood of harm, is attributable to—
(i)the care given to the child, or likely to be given to him if the order were not made, not being what it would be reasonable to expect a parent to give to him; or
(ii)the child’s being beyond parental control.
The five words in red have mean’t misery for thousands of innocent parents………..
JUDGES AND SOCIAL WORKERS SHOULD LEAVE FUTURE PREDICTIONS TO FORTUNE TELLERS AT THE FAIR GROUND AS THEY HAVE CRYSTAL BALLS,TAROT CARDS, AND YEARS OF EXPERIENCE THAT JUDGES AND SOCIAL WORKERS DO NOT !!
AND TALKING OF “RISK” !
20 April 2018 • 5:47pm The Telegraph
More than 10,000 children in care went missing last year amid evidence that they are being groomed by paedophiles and exploited by drug gangs
All intimidated parents should read the para below:-
IGNORE UK SOCIAL WORKERS!! They act like police but in fact they have NO AUTHORITY (they rely on bluff, bullying and fear) .TRY to remember they are NOT your friends ,they are your ENEMIES !
Ask yourself this question …….. WHY should I obey orders from people who have no authority to give them????
Alison McCormicksaid:
August 28, 2019 at 11:42 pm
I’m a sw myself and I am disgusted by the lies and evil systems used regularly to steal babies from vulnerable mothers in order to get adoption bonus from the govt
They have lied and lied and been dispicable and used every evil trick in the world to quieten me to stop me telling the truth
The system allows gross misjustice and parents cannot stand up to such injustice.
Where is the support ? There isn’t any
I’m going to the press. Ive had enough !
Courts are letting these liars get away with baby snatching
Yes as I hate what has happened to the system
I’m retiring in oct and happy to spill
2:FREE SPEECH should be restored by law to children in care at contact (they are first isolated by confiscation of phones and laptops,and then forbidden at supervised contact with parents to speak about possibly coming home or about abuse in foster care )They are forbidden to talk to each other or to their parents in their own language if they are foreign.Only English is allowed or contact is stoppedLocal authorities should not have the right to arbitrarily stop contact between non violent parents and children..No gagging of children should be allowed and they should be allowed to phone out to, or send texts to family and friends.
Free speech should also be restored by law to parents who want to protest publicly on TV or to the media about their kids being removed.If parents do now protest on line or in public they will be jailed for breaching the privacy of their babies (article 8 ECHR);Surely the democratic right to peaceful protest is the cornerstone of any democracy?Babies surely need their mums more than their privacy?
3:-.Forced adoption in large numbers(around 5000/year) make the UK almost unique in Europe where such procedures are rare or in most EU countries non existent. Forced adoption (= adoptions contested in court by parents) should be abolished .All adoptions should be “Open” so that parents know where and with whom their children are going;Adoption secrecy should be forbidden.
All adoptions must be genuinely voluntary and at the very least indirect contact by phone or email between parents and child should be freely allowed not penalised after adoption.At present children’s names,birth certificates, and locations are changed so that all contact with birth parents is prevented until adopted children are at least 18 and usually in effect for life .False birth certificates should never be issued.
Babies should no longer be routinely snatched at birth for future emotional risk and given to strangers who may well pose far more of a risk to children than loving parents desperately fighting in court to keep those children.One of the greatest risks any child can take is to join the nearly 100,000 children in the UK “State care system” (80,000 in England)where an average 10,000 children in care are reported missing every year (according to the All-Party Parliamentary Group (APPG) for Runaway and Missing Children and Adults) and where almost half those in prison or engaged in street prostitution were themselves in State care as children.
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To have independent advocates appointed by parents to go to schools and speak to Children about their wishes and feelings around their family and Contact. also all meetings should be recorded on Video or at the very least Audio. most smart phones have a voice recorder so there is no excuse.
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Also the recorded interview with the Child should be shared with the parents.
No excuses!
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Hi, above you ask where my experience of the Family Courts comes from. It started 10 years ago when a friend of mine had her daughter removed from her care. It was a system I knew nothing about. After observing the process during the following court case I realised British Justice was being corrupted by those involved in the system. I subsequently wrote “The Hypocrisy and Corruption within the UK Family Courts”. Copies were sent to all political leaders in the UK, Europe, USA and Russia plus many others. I received only 1 reply acknowledging receipt, that was from Putin, take from that what you may, the silence for all others was as they say deafening.
The report was written using all the factual information from the local authority’s (LA) own documentation, which contained positive proof that they lied in court and that this perjury was ignored by the court. The LA and the court also ignored irrefutable DNA evidence, the child was subject to an incurable genetic condition, for which the mother had been accused of causing. The DNA evidence proved the mother was NOT the cause.
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That comes as no big surprise. Parents have been submitting proof of lies in case files and perjury in court for many years but it is either ignored or brushed off as nothing. the parents are then labelled as Vexatious and troublesome.
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From an account where a child that has been abused by social workers in a court building. Having denied all the child had been smart enough to record all.
Independent statutory enquiry has found SW abused the child, denied them access to solicitor and barrister, falsely imprisoned them, assault occasioning ABH and more including suggested collusion of the policewith LA.
Said child has become a student of the law and now strongly advocates a ‘PACE’ type system for social workers and full recordings of everything.
Same child case, now with a senior ‘Her Honour Judge’ now under formal police investigation for conspiracy to pervert the course of justice, criminal standards of evidence in the family courts and obligations to address criminal matters in the family courts. Its simply unacceptable when perjury is alleged, then admitted under oath even with explanations, for the family courts to state these are not matters for the family courts. Basic truth would be a start.
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P.S. SW’s denied all, called the child a liar, impugned a judge until the play button was pressed.
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Has this case made the papers ?
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Wow now that’s powerful well done to that brave, brave child. I hope he/she is ok now. You see this is why you cannot trust this system, because it’s polluted with rats and roaches. It really sickens me, and can you imagine how many wicked SW’s, and judges have got away with behaving like this, towards those who very sadly knew no better to protect themselves against evil vultures like these.
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Hi Natasha,
I believe that children’s rights can only be safeguarded by a statutory requirement to elicit their opinions whatever their age. This means noticing everything they do and how they relate to significant others and most importantly recording every-thing they say, no matter how irrelevent a court officer might think. It would then be up to judges and magistrates to decide how much weight can be attached to their evidence. The child’s ‘voice’ needs to be heard directly, not just indirectly.
David
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Absolutely correct.
the wishes and concerns of the child is usually believed via the word of a social worker, child guardian or foster carer when the reality is the child is thinking the exact opposite.
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If we are truly to help children, all children, we must start to look at the myriad of different Issues from a different perspective.
There are currently 4 million children, 1 in 3, growing up poor in the UK. Living hand to mouth, food banks & cold houses are a way of life for them. They don’t have what other children have & they have no immediate way of changing their status. The governments austerity measures have pushed families into poverty, along with loss of employment or illness. Why is this significant? A lot of children from poor backgrounds end up in care. If these families were helped in a more timely manner less children would end up in care.
It damages children, regardless of their backgrounds, to live with strangers when they are taken into care. This damage manifests Itself in mental illness & a host of other issues in adult life. Most children would want to remain at home, even if their parents are dysfunctional by social services standards. So a different mindset is required to keep the child with their family, which benefits the child & the adult he/she will grow into.
A criminal has many different levels from a fare dodger to a serial killer & different penalties but a family involved with social services has only one level, that your family was so bad to necessitate that your children to be taken away from you & most times afterwards to have very little supervised contact, which erodes as time goes by or simply none at all, because a social worker has decided that it’s too disruptive for the child.
There is no real appeal, despite going through the motions nor the opportunity to get your child back, as that decision is made from the outset by the social worker on the Care Plan & given the seal of approval by the Judge, without any real analysis. No matter that the Care Plan is changed later to suit Fosterers & family contact arrangements altered without returning to the court.
Your child can be removed from you & criminal charges can be made against you in tandem but many people don’t realise that your child can be removed from you without there being any criminal charges made. The result is the same, your child is taken into care. That’s a very odd concept. It’s not something people think about until they find themselves involved with Social Services & the Family Court.
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Hi Dr Manhattan
re case in papers- not really.
Telegraph reported on earlier matters in this case where IOPC upheld complaints for Cumbria police failing to investigate child abuse/child assault/perjury/contempt and misconduct in public office, around the same day the Poppi Worthington inquest decision was reached (same force).
There is much wider story here beyond this specific case and even more egregious. If you have links into this happy to chat offline.
Regards Oz
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My answer to this question is what Ian has suggested should happen on so many occasions. GET RID OF ALL SW’!, and replace them with police, and then completely change, SECTION 31 CHILDREN ACT 1989.
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