Sara Root, a mother involved in child protection proceedings, has been jailed for posting information about her children on Facebook. The length and type of sentence has not been disclosed. (The length of the sentence has since been made public. Justice Theis handed down a jail term of nine months).
In a post about the mother last week, we explained that she had used the social media site to talk about details of her case which she said included several failings and breaches of the law by child welfare professionals.
Ms Root had been subject to several reporting injunctions and had breached them, she says, to raise concerns about the way in which she and her children were treated by the family court.
Medway council complained about her posts on Facebook.
Sentencing her last Wednesday, Mrs Justice Theis said she was jailing Ms Root because the mother of two was likely to continue breaching the injunctions.
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Bull crap nothing like kicken her when shes down
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FREE SPEECH,FREE SPEECH,FREE SPEECH, ………..What is happening in the UK when judges can forbid mums from complaining publicly when their children are snatched and jail them if they disobey ?
No judge should have such powers and Mrs Justice Theis should herself be jailed for a very long time for breaching the human right of this mother to freedom of speech .
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Same happened with me I was sentenced for 8 month in prison for critisising SW on my page on FB and Twitter and congratulating my son with his birthday naming him by his first name. Served 4 month , got most support from Elmleyprison, But had to wait for judgement 2 month, only after 62 days in hunger strike article of John Hemming Judgement was published. wonder how long it will take for Sara s to be published?
Judge Theis is a Medway council judge, always handling appeals and complaints of this region.
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impoRtant to add that her children ARE ALREADY ADULTS , 19 AND 20, AND WERE NOT INFORMED ABOUT MOTHER S IMPRISONMENT.
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:O xx
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This doesnt make Sense. why was she in child protection proceedings for her kids who are no longer classed as Children ?
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You couldn’t have put it any better Ian Joseph’s.
It’s all about punishing parents not the interests of the child. What I would like to see is social workers and Cafcass going to prison for perjury and misleading judges. Judges should also be held accountable for their actions. Poor woman. My heart goes out to her. How can you have your children taken off of you and not show any emotion?
I am currently going through the court system and I want to put in my statement how Cafcass have mislead the Judge and used bullying tactics on me and how my solicitor gagged me from speaking out. But is this ever a good idea? ( a lot of what I experienced was from years ago, but as they wish to reflect on historic documents I feel compelled to clear my name). But worried that Cafcass will become more vindictive for challenging them.
I don’t know which way to jump.
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@Kate You need to jump which ever way gives you the best chance of keeping your child. That is why you’re in court….. it’s not about how aggrieved you feel, or how badly you’ve been mistreat by the court, or cafcass etc – you can malke formal complaints to those organisations later on. it’s about building your case for keeping your child. You’re feelings and reputation are not relevent to that process. Keep yourt child and **** anything other concern.
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They are bullies covering their own backsides from incompetence and future negligent claims.
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Even murderers have more rights. This is what happens to parents who break the Family court secrecy rule and talk about their case. Courts are complicit in aiding LAs and their social workers in their lies about many children and their parents. In criminal courts even murderers are allowed to talk about their cases and miscarriages of justice publically. BUT not if you are unfortunate enough to be in a family law case. WHY? HOW is it possible to protect children from what are effectively miscarriages of justice in the Family Court if we cannot talk about the case??
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Meme. Sorry I have only just seen your comment and couldn’t reply to that directly.
I am in court because ex wants to see my child who is a teenager. With this in mind do you still think I shouldn’t put in writing that the Cafcass Guardian (who is no longer working) mislead the court and committed perjury etc? (I can evidence it all). It’s just that the Cafcasss officer is going to use the old documents to help him decide on contact. They are considering instructing a Guardian this time(due to it be a complex case).
I really don’t know what to do for the best. If I don’t do anything the court may think all of this stuff is true and it could be used against me, but at the same time Cafcass could get nasty for me daring to accuse an ex staff member of such things.
Kate
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Kate, all I can say is that we had loads of eveidence against the SWs involved in our case and that they lied etc and this was later upheld against them by an independent invstigation,. HOWEVER when we tried to present this evidence in court during the 16 hearings we had to go through, we were told to take it up with the council (which we later did). But the judge wasn’t interested that we had hard evidence that the SWs were lying in their S37 and S47 reports. And, because we were getting SS investigated after the S37 report, the next report the S47 was atriocious and full of lies even worse than the S37. We then had a S7 report which was much more fair and reasoned and we kept our child. So that’s what you may be up against if you do complain. Perjury by SWs doesn’t seem to matter to the judiciary….. If I were to do it again…. I’d complain AFTER, unless I had could call an independent witness like a policeman to prove the SWs had lied. If cafcass is going to use old info then you could request of the judge more recent and updated info via another report being done now to show the situation as it is now and if another SW/Cafcass worker does it, then you stand more chance. Big hugs to you, I know it feels like a damned if you do and damned if you don’t situation. We still feel we’re in that situation now, because until the child reaches the age of maturity, they and you are not safe
If the ex is or will claim parental alienation then I’d use this as evidence against that. Good Luck!! http://www.learningtoendabuse.ca/WHO.22April-1.pdf
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@MeMe response to your message at 9:55 am.
Thank you for getting back to me so soon. A section 7 has in fact been ordered.
Your advice is very level headed and I totally hear what you are saying. It is extremely difficult to smile sweetly in court when such lies have been told.
Sorry to keep on but are you saying literally don’t even touch upon the fact (in my statement) that the historic papers have no factual basis whatsoever and I can evidence it all (being factual with no emotion) or are saying do not complain now? Just thought by mentioning it it may put Cafcass off drawing upon old papers if I can evidence that the Guardian mislead the court. If I put the court orders wording on here it would make it clear but I cannot do that on here.
Did you get anywhere with the council afterwards?
You are so right about, “damned if you do scammed if you don’t.” That is exactly how I feel and this is why I’m procrastinating about doing my statement, but I know I need to do it soon.
Parental alienation is a concern.
Kate
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If you didnt make a formal complaint to Cafcass they could use that against you in court.
the problem i see with family court judges is they dont seem to care about professionals telling lies in their court even though its perjury and a Criminal offence..
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My comment was more an observational response not advice.
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Exactly this. Our poor childrens lives are in these people hands. The fiasco with the BBC comes to mind. Profit before children. Who are the real child abusers??
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I think mrs justice thies is quite clearly part of the problem when it comes to stolen children because you poor excuse of a judge are mlst likely paid to rule in favour of social services as your decisions have and are quite clearly already decided before you go into that room for your coffee before the court session even starts!!! Jailing parwnts because they dare speak the truth of the injustice that is done to them and the failure to protect the children in question!!! Disgusting its so a fact closed court rooms only protect bent (bad) judges and solicitors and most of the people giving their proffessional opinions are not even meeting the people their givinging their opinions on.. shame on uk justice system
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Committals swere at open court, but I guess no one came.
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Judges are there for Public Scrutiny, leastways that’s what it says in the literature l obtained from the publishing’s of the judiciary. So if we are being served badly it needs to be the UK Public in un-resounding numbers challenging the way things are being run. Also there has been a recent blog by guest writer Lawrence Mc Namara on the UK Human Rights Chambers Website, saying once the secrecy of cases is basically passed it’s sell by date and not relevant to the “public safety ” aspects ,then it should all come out. I realise this is in the main for very different cases, but why not in this case? It is a valid question to be asked.
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if the truth about most cases were to come out it would soon show a common theme of parents who had no drug problems, no alcohol problems, no criminal record and no previous involvement with the SS being taken to court simply to steal their children when the same case wouldnt get passed the front door in a Criminal court.
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Gagging orders protect the courts not the children concerned. Not allowing children to know that their parents/parent fought nail and tooth to keep them is ‘emotional abuse’ on the courts part. Seeing as SS and Cafcass like to brand just about anything as ‘emotional abuse’.
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The govt needs to step up and change the system so Family courts judges can no longer send parents to jail. the complaint should be sent to the CPS to determine if there is a case to answer and if there is then it goes to the magistrates court.
the jailing of this mother will no doubt provoke a great deal of anger.
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Professor Laren Devine clearly things that some parts of the Childrens Act are being contorted and implemented illegally and her professional and stated opinion as a barrister as well as a social policy researcher is that things need to change. http://eprints.uwe.ac.uk/29438/1/NewRethinking%20Child%20Protection%20Strategy%20-%20progress%20and%20next%20steps%20-%20Seen%20and%20Heard%20-%20Dr%20Lauren%20Devine.pdf
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Oppps… should be professor LAUREN Devine
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Thank you. I have downloaded your link to have a read later Xx
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quite often you get some great info by also looking at research mentioned in the references section as well 😀 Researchers like Profs Devine, Liz Trinder, Eileen Munro and Andy Bilson do get taken notice of, even if it seems it’s only a ‘drip drip’ approach, it is wearing away at the system 😉 These are not inconsequential researchers 😀
“Dr Lauren Devine LL.B. (Hons), M.Phil (Law, Bristol), M.A. (Research Methods, Bham), Ph.D.(Law, Bham), Barrister of the Inner Temple (ICSL, London); P.G.Cert.H.E., FHEA is the Director of the Social Justice Research Group, the Interdisciplinary & Expert Evidence Network (IEEN) and Solutions for Safeguarding CIC.
Her research focuses on the legal and ethical balance between State power and private rights, particularly in public law processes, identifying hidden vulnerabilities and unintended consequences in welfare systems.
She has completed major funded projects examining the safeguarding and child protection systems with work funded by the Economic and Social Research Council and the Nuffield Foundation. She has published a book ‘The Limits of State Power and Private Rights’.
Current research focuses on trends in the child protection system, the consequences of rises in referrals, assessments and care order applications, risk, ‘big data’ and artificial intelligence in child protection, and the creation of an ethical charter where big data and AI is used in public decision making”
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While studies and research papers can be a good thing, the problem with all that is it gets nowhere. as John Hemming stated years ago you wont get change by camping out next to courts with protest banners etc.Laws and legislation can only be changed by Parliament.
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Whilst there may be truthn in that, there is also truth in the fact that research DOES influence govt decisions, such as the Women’s Aid research influencing the govt to make changes recently in relation to DV. Also using research in your own court case can make a difference. We used a piece in ours that got us a positive result as a result of doing so, so do not dismiss its effects too readily. 😀
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well, aftrer such a meaningful research things will definitely change. not to worry
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If I didn’t focus on being optimistic and doing my little bit behind the scenes, I’d be in a mental hospital permenantly after what I’ve been through. It’s a personal choice thing. 😀
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That is a good thing.
as long as you remember to stay on the side who are fighting the corrupt system.once a group begin to disagree and squabble among each other the main goal then becomes a blur and very often leads to failure of the main objective.
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This is bang out of order
Think this is done to scare some of us from doing the same thing what else can I say
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This story might have been posted previously.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2755853/It-amazing-moment-Social-worker-gloats-Facebook-breaking-family-revelling-massive-rollicking-judge-gave-parents.html?fbclid=IwAR1VFkVPnvjWvezJFaR-YY0pIC8JVE2Fp7cVOmOt1CobstKSbIQkvDPHz2o
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The disgusting powers and abuse of the corrupt secret family courts , the standard practice for shutting parents up who want to expose the corruption and speak the truth . #stopforchedadoption
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Its time these draconian Gagging laws were removed. They try to justify them as being to protect the child, but they are more to protect the identities of the social workers and court consultants and their fabrications, distortions, and embellishments of evidence. It should be for the accused parties to decide if publication is appropriate and necessary. “Justice must not only be done, but must be seen to be done”. – Edmund Burke.
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P.S. Justice is NOT being done, and the injustices are not being seen.!
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I could not have said it better, have been saying the same myself in the years since I was involved in care proceedings a long time ago. I found out the hard way that these people lie and twist the facts to suit themselves, in my case the Guardian actually putting my kids at risk of physical harm, but complaining to and about the various organisations – CAFCASS, Local Authority – really gets you nowhere as they cover their backs and each other, denying all and any wrongdoing. I was shocked when I found out in time that it is widespread, that I wasn’t the only one it was happening to as I first thought. It needs to be stopped. The sws etc not giving a damn about protecting the children, just themselves and preventing the public at large from finding out how devious and unscrupulous they really are.
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This mother will have been jailed for Contempt of Court in secret proceedings by the Judge who heard the original proceedings. The Judge is therefore the injured party, yet s/he acts as Judge in his/her own cause and can sentence to prison entirely in secret.!. That is a fundamental breach of natural justice and a fair hearing. The mother should have the right to trial by Jury for such a Contempt so that she and the Judge could out their respective cases before an independent hearing. No Judge should have the right to imprison someone entirely in secret and when they are an injured party to the proceedings. This is not justice, it is Kangaroo Court mentality.
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this court was not secret. Media was there and therefore we found out about that.Not much interest though as it became routine c
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I had a Case normally open to the public even though it was a Telephone Hearing, where it was claimed no one turned up and it was a Case fighting for all families my Application was – so because I wasn’t there in person I could not comment if it was true or not re: no one showing up; but I know what you mean.
It could help if ones who live local showed up to demonstrate peacefully.
Strength in numbers or our voices can and do go unheard xx
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As you are aware no one gives a flying…
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Yep xx
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The child welfare system stinks. Why is they no family support any more if anyone need locking up it the child protection services. The system with no love, boundaries or structure. The system of distribution
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Stay strong Sara Root. The truth will out in the end.
It was said in court that I too have a personality disorder when I have never been diagnosed with one in my life. It’s their usual party trick, it should be those that commit perjury, mislead judges and defamation of character should go to prison. How unjust. Gagging orders are there to protect the courts in these circumstances and not the children involved. Gagging orders allow this to continue.
The SS, Cafcass, Guardians involved must have something seriously wrong with them to make up such things about others. Judges who rubber stamp what they say should be held accountable. There should be consequences.
Kate
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@Kate Hi Kate, sorry for the delay but we’ve been dealing since yesterday morning with yet more crap coming from the ex. Sadly, in 7 years he’s failed to ‘move on’ or get himself a new partner to take his mind off his ongoing revenge tactics with us.
If you’re getting a S7 with a new SW, then it’s new start, a fresh slate, and, that’s what finally made the difference for us after the previous involvement of 9 other SWs including line manager and case manager. What I will say is that we found Cafcass to be very good! They could clearly see the ex for what he was and what he was doing and said this early on to that particular judge and to the LA SS. It was only once the LA SWs got involved that the really serious issues developed.
What FC taught us, is that results entirely depend on which individual social worker is involved and which individual judge on the day of the hearing. What can influence both is parental behaviour, both in court and before.
Remember the judge is interested in what the situation is NOW and will be in the future. They want to see you be mature and responsible enough to put your own feelings and needs/wants to one side IN THE BEST INTERESTS OF THE CHILD. They want to know you are totally CHILD FOCUSED. That you are and will continue to put the needs of your child first and foremost and your own needs come second to that.
Now you and I know that the judges and SWs don’t have the entire picture about what the child may be going through, or feels or wants, and so their idea of what is in the best interests of the child can differ from ours. Therein lies the other major problem. And there’s not always anything we can do to rectify that no matter HOW hard we try. We may not be able to protect our child to the extent that we want to. So we have to do the best we can to get the maximum protection we can get in the circumstances that we are in.
That means working within the rules of the system, not only the written obvious ones but also the unwritten non obvious ones as well, and the latter are the tricky ones cos you don’t know they’re there usually until you fall foul of them. So yes, you do go into court and smile sweetly, you do go into court and exercise self control, self restraint, consideration, courtesy and politeness, a willingness to listen and to compromise (the hardest bit). Because you want the BEST possible outcome for your child in your circumstances and compromise will get that. No it probably won’t be the perfect outcome, but you can get the best you can, given the odds stacked against you. Even if you were successful without compromise, there will always be the ‘what if’s’, the regrets that you didn’t do something a certain way, or that you couldn’t do what you needed to do. That’s going to be inescapable. For example, my biggest regret was not calling a certain Detective Constable as a witness.
Make sure you have written all the points you want to make to the judge or case law references or academic research references out on cardex cards and have them in order of importance. If you have a solicitor representing you and you think they haven’t made a particular point, then slip them the relevent cardex. If you’re LIP, the cardex are invaluable. If you’re LIP, have a family member or friend as a McKensie Friend and have them keep you on track as the emotional and psychological pressure of being LIP can be overwhelming. We employed the kick on the ankle under the table technique a lot – painful but effective 😉
Have all your records and evidence and any research papers filed in an A4 file with labelled seperators so you can see where stuff is that you need, and have an index in the front, you need all the help you can get and use to keep your mind focused. If you allow your feeling to surface you’ll lose focus and that’s when the kick under table really works – it’s a sharp reminder to get a grip again. You do the very best you can.
If you can, call CREDIBLE witnesses and have a written list of questions to put to them. If the ex has told you and court which witnesses they are calling, then prepare a list of questions to ask them as well. Prepare a list of questions to ask your ex as well. Depending on what comes up during the hearing, do not hesitate to request a 15 minute recess if you need it to consider or confer about it before proceeding. Make sure you have a glass or a bottle of water with you, you’ll need it, we drank loads each time. And, NEVER INTERUPT the judge! Ever. Write notes whilst he/she is speaking if you you’re going to need to make a point to them after they stop, but don’t interupt them.
Court isn’t fair. Life isn’t fair. All children are damaged one way or another by life and we cannot always protect them no matter how hard we try. Things happen. They have serious accidents. They get sick and may die. They get damaged by friends, by family, by strangers, by SWs, by judges, by parents who filled their little heads with lies during contact and they may even grow up blaming you for their hurt because of those untruths. But when they are hurt no matter how hard you’ve tried, you have to bite the bullet till all your teeth crack and your gums bleed, and carry on loving them and doing your best for them no matter what the personal cost. It’s what parents who love their children do.
Would I complain about Cafcass to the judge? No. But it’s your decision. Remember that judges are used to dealing with ppl standing before them denying responsibility and saying it was someone else’s fault, and they know the guilty will almost certainly always do that – blame someone else – it’s always someone else’s fault regardless. So, I think it unconsciously trips a switch in a judges head when someone plays the blame game. It affects their perception of the person doing it. The judge wants you focused on what is right for your child, not what is right for you, or what is wrong with an SW. The judge isn’t there to judge social workers, they’re there to judge you and your ex, and both your behaviours in relation to your child.
And, finally… on the question of enforced contact, the study by Professor Liz Trinder on contact post seperation, identified the fact that the majority of children who did not want to go to contact, in the end were glad that they had because of the insights and understanding they got from going and they ubnderstood the turth of their situation a lot better. In other words as we have always known and are expereincing, children aren’t stupid, there is no need for anyone to indulge in so called parental alientaion, becasue where a parent genuinely isn’t a nice person, the child can see this and that is their experience during contact, so the child is perfectly capable and in point of fact does make up it’s own mind about both parents. This is also supported by a recent study which showed that where a parent indulged in PA, the children saw through this AND the attempts at PA turned the child against the parent doing it. So PA alienates the child against the alienator. So there is sort of a plus side to enforced contact.
Did we get anywhere against the LA SS. Yes. Multiple complaiints upheld. 14 recommendations for change with the Children’s Service made by outside investigators. Council accepted the recommendations and said they’d implement them. Did they? We don’t know.
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@ meme. Meme so sorry that I have only seen your response (I tend to look at the Cafcass blog more).
Sorry to hear about your ex. It is a hassle you could all definitely do without. I’m convinced something has happened in my one’s life as we have not heard from him (other than stalking me) in years.
I am yet to meet a Cafcass officer that can actually work with honesty and integrity, and you are right it is luck of the draw, and this includes Judges as well. I completely hear what you are saying in regards to Judges are interested in NOW and the future and I think that is very true.
Just to give a bit more information, Cafcass requested old papers so that they could reflect upon them. The amount of defamation contained in them is unbelievable. For instance, it states that I have a personality disorder when I have never been diagnosed in my life! I can evidence against this if necessary but I was concerned that Cafcass would still attempt to use it against me. So in part my consideration in providing evidence against Cafcass is to stop them reflecting on this, and if I am brutally honest, it is, in part, me wanting to clear my name and show Cafcass for what they really are. I am someone who really struggles to keep quiet when a lie or any injustice is told, but last time we went through it I must admit Cafcass bullied so much that I didn’t have it in me to challenge them at all. This was probably the idea as they definitely succeeded. I think this is why it is coming out in me now.
When I read your post, I can see how you would come across well to a Judge. I will show your post to my Mackenzie friend as she wished to tap my leg when I was recalling the unlawful practice of a previous Cafcass officer to the new officer in Court! I was justifying why I find it hard to trust them. Although, I must admit they are the only organisation that I know of that become spiteful when you have suffered underhand and unlawful practice by one of their colleagues. But you are right, I must be sweet and try and take the emotion out of it.
I had to laugh when I looked back at my last post to you as instead of typing, ‘damned if you do damned if you don’t.’ I put ‘scammed if you don’t.’ Freudian slip or what?!
I have a solicitor phoning me tonight and I am going to ask how much of the decision of contact is the child’s when they are a teenager.
So pleased your multiple complaints were upheld. It must have given you a little closure? Did the court make sure that you could not talk about (gagged) it in a way that you could be identified? i.e. papers, names etc? This is what protects the local authority. I didn’t complain last time and as I didn’t have the papers until now I was not aware of the evidence against Cafcass at the time.
Thank you so much for taking the time to give me such detailed advice. I really do appreciate it.
Kate
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The most suspected reason for the lies and fabrications seem to be the incentives paid to Councils to meet adoption targets.
These So-called Grants are very likely the culprit behind it.
Inter-agency fee grant claims
£27,000 for placing 1 child
£43,000 for placing 2 siblings in 1 adoptive family
£60,000 for placing 3 siblings in 1 adoptive family
£68,000 for placing 4 siblings in 1 adoptive family
£80,000 for placing 5 or more siblings in 1 adoptive family
https://www.gov.uk/guidance/inter-agency-adoption-fee-grant-for-local-authorities?fbclid=IwAR1oAQgVxuPa7M35m0X7CySH2mtdvAYcel16fDRX-UAZR24-kNyHr3siPxM
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It’s really disgusting that this young mother has been jailed for trying to show that family court were continually failing her. So to shut her up she has been jailed. .meanwhile where is the children. In some foster home which are not always the best should vetted a bit more.but some are wonderful. So where are the children. It’s an absolute disgrace.
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Omg
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Medway, why doesn’t that surprise me. One judge yawning, rolling her eyes and clock watching throughout. Only asked a couple of questions, summing up was as if they were talking to 2 naughty children who shook hands and made up not even touching on the abuse involved or the conviction of battery. The judges are in fairy land to the real world. It was a complete shambles and waste of everyone’s time, money and energy. If anything happens to my child because if their incompetence I will be shouting it from the rooftops, prison or no prison
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This has happened because the justice system is corrupt.they don’t like anyone else to know because they know they take children based on false reports I’ve have done the same too good ok her for speaking out it’s about something needs doing about the corrupt law system!
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This is complete bollox freedom of speech has long gone in the UK only last night i posted something about my daughter on facebook stating what a little sod she is being when out with her mates & to warn other parents.
Telling people she was 16/17 years old when in point of fact she is 14 yrs old drinking aswell as doing things she shouldent be doing with boys this is playing a dangerous game pointing out she could get myself ,her mum aswell as other people sent to prison through her dam stupidity.
I WILL NEVER ALLOW ANY IDIOT LIKE A JUDGE TELL ME HOW & WHAT I CAN SAY REGARDING ANY MEMBER OF MY CHILDREN THESE PEOPLE ARE CORRUPT TO THE CORE I APPLAUD THIS LADY FOR WHAT SHE HAS DONE & TO THE JUDGE WHO COMMITED THIS INJUSTICE FUCK JUSTICE THERE IS NO JUSTICE.
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Of course, quick to jail a parent for “wrong doing”. What ever happens to the many many abuses, fraudulent cases, misappropriation of funds or benefits? All the time, we as parents applying for benefits ofany kind to benefit our children; we are constantly threatened with large fines AND or jail for receiving benefits not due us. They take our children and immediately strip us of those benefits. But when the table gets turned and they received benefits for our children illegally; no punishment. And the lost or killed children, do they update records to stop receipt of benefits? Highly unlikely. Why arent these contractors going to jail for “loosing” someones child!!! And are charges brought against all of the people involved in the death of a child? Those cases are always hushed and results never disclosed.
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This is cruel. Freedom of speech we r be dictated to
It has to stop but will have to be rough
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Posting on face book appears to be a common theme and the judiciary even hand out jail time for it. Recently this was 27 months for Lian Harris from Preston when she appeared before the court in Birmingham.
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Background to Lian’s case: https://www.cavendish-press.co.uk/news/post/80/the-surrogate-mother-who-stalked-a-judge-after-losing-legal-battle-to-keep-her-child.aspx
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soon less and less attention for cases like that. Everyone is busy with Russia and China alleged human rights violations.
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If she feels strongly about the way she and her children as been treated ,she should be allowed a voice ,I know that social services lie in and out of court and the judges don’t let families speak ,it’s a disgrace they are bullies and it’s all corrupt and I don’t care who I say this too because it’s the truth ,it’s time this was stopped I’m ashamed to be British because of our system is to split families they should be supporting families but NO they forcefully steal children for adoption .
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Bloody joke we have human rights this is not a criminal court but all family court proceedings should be heard in it due to the amount of false allegations of child abuse significant harm drugs and every other criminal offence social services and cafcass sight in their reports not one family court in the uk ask for full investigation of these allegations by police etc so perjury and malfeasance in public office is allowed.
State allowed child abduction at its highest
Even to the point of child trafficking.
Any judge who jails a mother father grandparents for speaking the truth is is aiding and abetting their local authorities in all of the above
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