Our article in the Huffington Post this month looks at the phenomenon of rapists who go on to ask for contact with the children they produced out of rape.
This is a particularly difficult area to write about due to the cultural and evidential problems surrounding rape, so the article focuses on incidents of undeniable rape as its starting point.
In the piece we look at the right to contact through the eyes of the children involved and a little explored area which sees fathers asking for contact only after they have been ordered to pay maintenance by a court.
What do you think? Is contact in this context ever justified?
You can read our article here.
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The only explanation is Stephen Glover’s scathing critique of the judiciary. But the problems clearly don’t only cover ‘money’ but also ‘sex’.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4213998/A-critique-greed-Britain-s-lawyers.html
He encourages our ‘judicial activism’!
What a challenging world we women live in with our capacity of giving birth to children…
Have soo many men had such bad mothers? Or only all those boys who had the ‘privilege’ of being educated in private boarding schools???
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This is a decision that only a distorted male mind could contemplate. To suggest a meeting between the rapist, the raped and the product of that rape is malevolent, while to empower such a meeting is heinous.
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Spoken like a true feminist…
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One day the family rights movement will get the hang of the “best interests of the child” and the objective processes of the courts.
What is best for the newborn baby? Can a rapist be a loving caring father?
What is the relevance of the child’s conception?
Where is the clinical evidence that rapists don’t make good fathers?
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Reblogged this on Musings of a Penpusher and commented:
This is a decision that only a distorted male mind could contemplate. To suggest a meeting between the rapist, the raped and the product of that rape is malevolent, while to empower such a meeting is heinous.
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Its a real tough subject. Many ultra-liberal women of college age have, along with the law, broadened rap to mean nearly anything. If a woman decides after sex that she did not like it, she claims rape as revenge. If I go to a movie, and watch it all, I can’t get my money back. I got taken. No one can guarantee that a guy is always going to be considerate or not push things some. Many women of say 20 have been raised to be queen bitches in schools, from at least 6th grade on. They think nothing of lying, playing games, being cruel, even more to their own that to boys/men. It is a very unstable world. We have so much to address and no one wants to admit it. It is a crisis that will bring a bout our downfall. If there is ever to be a solution, it will have to be one that is fair to both sides. Without malice, prejudice or insincerity, I say the scales are very much against men and that women are now high favored. the myth of male white privilege is a joke.
A real genuine authentic rape, with full penetration, does not deserve any rights. God prescribes execution and I’m all for it. but He also prescribes execution for false rape charge, too and I am all for that, too. Then there is all that gray area. for example, teen sexting.. sending naked photos or posing for them for a partner? Well, that is just dumb in todays culture. I’d set several levels for fines and tell them all otherwise that unless they have a contract, then they have simply make a bad decision and will have to live with it. And teens sharing naked photos ,it not what I would child porn. Teens ought o know better be held acountable for their actions. Oh, the things I could say, but I got some snow get rid of so I’ll stop it here.
But what you bring up is a good question. If only we were all better at answering in an impartial way.
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Very good commentary against the insanity of feminism and the cancer it spreads. So good that I am amazed it wasn’t removed because we simply can’t have any decenting narrative from the toxic feminist agenda…
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Thank you, Mike. But I brought it up for an indirect reason. for one, when have the laws ever cared about men? Answer: When the men are professionals who molest their daughters and often get custody for it. Courts like perverts, too. So I am not in favor of any changes cause changes go from bad to worse. What I would like see is honest discussion of all issues affecting justice and sincerely do something for the kids that truly is on their best interests. Feminism is lies and so is law and justice. But if a man is paying some some sort of alimony as a supposed rapist, then he should have time with his “investment.” But if it was truly a full blown rape and not morning after regret, then he ought get the death penalty or life in prison. But as long as both sides corrupt the issues, I say lever things alone and stop screwing kids over.
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Reblogged this on World4Justice : NOW! Lobby Forum..
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Women rape men as well and that is the dirty little secret. Now that we all know this, how come nobody would be alarmed if the female rapist asked for visitation? Do you people really hate men this much??? Your fathers? Your sons? Your uncles and nephews? Why do you people hate us so???
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Sorry, biology has dictated that a woman cannot rape a man.
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I suppose contact with the child but not the mother should be possible. I am NOT thinking of the rapist’s rights but the right of a child to know its father especially if the child wants it once he/she is of an age to say so.
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For once, I think this is a decision for the child to make. It’s such a difficult one. Women sometimes do cry ‘rape’ when it was no such thing. Fathers who have abused a child have been given custody of that child. We have to stop this demonization of one sex against the other. Otherwise we are simply passing on our prejudices and hate and fuelling resentment in our children. May God help them, for we don’t seem to be.
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In the UK the rapist would need to apply for a parental responsibility order as the natural or biological parent.
The criteria to make the order is “intention to form a family”. I cannot see how rape can be seen as an intention to form a family.
However, in the English speaking common law justifications a duty to maintain brings with it a duty of care for the maintenance to be properly applied. Contact, in the sense of communication, can be justified in meeting the duty.
This is the proper argument that fathers should bring in the UK.
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Is there any evidence (other than anecdotal) that more rapists are being granted contact, that “British courts are heading in the same direction” as this US court, or that the children of rapists suffer “permanent emotional and psychological harm”? The “evidence” that some rapists only apply for contact when they have been assessed to pay maintenance turns out to be an Economist article about some isolated cases in the US. If we are to deal with this issue effectively, perhaps we need a little more science and a little less emotion.
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Links in the body of the article. Rest is on this blog.
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But that’s just it: the links in the article are not to any substantial evidence which supports these claims. If it is the case that the British courts really are heading in the same direction – whatever that direction may be – that is something to which attention should rightly be drawn. But no evidence is presented and a search doesn’t reveal any. Otherwise, it remains just an assertion. There IS some evidence, for example, that paedophiles are being successful in the courts in exploiting human rights legislation to pursue contact with their children, which is an alarming development, but isn’t directly relevant to this discussion. I’m not arguing that there isn’t any evidence, merely that if you make this controversial assertion you need to back it up with more than a tale from Massachusets.
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