Two days ago we wrote about an update we received from a mother who spoke out about Dr Hibbert’s treatment of her, and many others, whilst staying at Tadpole Cottage. Dr Hibbert, an approved family court psychiatrist and leading expert in his field was accused of emotionally abusing these mothers whilst in his care and misdiagnosing them.
Hibbert appeared before a Fitness to Practice Panel, where he was subsequently exonerated. The Panel’s decision was not a welcome one, not least of all because the Panel did not definitively prove Dr Hibbert was free of wrongdoing – simply that no proof could be found to show to the contrary.
Since being cleared by the General Medical Council, Dr Hibbert has not chosen to keep a low profile and go back to his work. Instead, he has set about trying to track down the mothers who spoke out.
Thanks to one brave mum, we can now reveal that Dr Hibbert has been contacting judges presiding over these women’s cases and requesting that he be sent the documents being used in these cases. And rather than file a formal application for this request, which is required, Dr Hibbert has tried to get these judges to simply send over the information.
This is not only not allowed, but for an allegedly leading family expert who has been working inside the courts for many years, a very concerning lack of professional conduct.
Luckily, the judges know their stuff and have required Hibbert to file the proper application for this request, which also requires him to submit evidence as to why he should be entitled to these files. This application will then be sent to all the parties to the process, so they will be able to see what Dr Hibbert’s reasons are for making the application in the first place.
We wonder now whether Dr Hibbert is setting out to see whether he can sue for defamation using these documents, should he find anything less than positive about him within them. Even so, that certainly wouldn’t require access to all the files in each case, nor would it make a compelling case for a law suit. Most communications in family law cases, as we understand it, are protected and it is highly unlikely that Dr Hibbert would be able to sue using them.
The only other alternative that we can think of, is that Dr Hibbert is actually not very well and needs psychiatric help.
Added below is an extract from a letter written by a lawyer which explains Dr Hibbert’s activity and the court’s response:
“Even though Hibbert wrote to Justice [edited] requesting permission to disclose the documents to third parties, he has been told that he will have to make a formal application to the Court. That application will have to be accompanied by evidence in support of why such permission should be given. The application will have to be served on all the parties in the proceedings…. All parties will then have an opportunity to respond to the application and make submissions to the Court.
The Order has stated that the application hearing will be listed at the same time as the local authority’s application… Hibbert might ask for his application to be heard sooner, dependent on what he wants the documents for.
Basically, he has tried to be cheeky and ask for the documents rather than making a formal application. In family court’s an application MUST be made. So he has now been told that.”
This alone is enough evidence to show that the Dr. is not of sound mind!
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You’d think so. Still, it will be interesting to see what reasons he gives, if he makes an application. Now he’s got to play by the rules and file an application, he may change his mind….
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Cheeky! More like underhand! He, more than likely thought, could go in the back door, as he is a court expert and all!
It’s a shame ALL of Hibberts cases were not investigated by an independant non vested party. Wonder what that would throw up?
Its a logical assumption to think that Hibbert may well be suffering from a mental illness, psychiatrists are strong candidates as ” Psychology Today”. highlights in an article, ” Why shrinks have problems”. (sorry I can’t post the link). Makes for interesting reading.
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Hi D, agree with all you say. Yes, lots of data on mental illness and those in psychiatry….
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Reblogged this on World4Justice : NOW! Lobby Forum..
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Let’s not miss the point here. This so called doctor seems to have been providing dodgy reports to the courts for some tie….hundreds of them. In common with many others who seem to masquerade as experts, he has filed so many reports in quick succession that it is unlikely they could have been produced in line with requisite standards.
Nevertheless, judges have (i) accepted his evidence (ii) uncritically (iii) paid him (iv) made decisions based on his reports (iv) not put tow and two together, altho his stuff must have been in pretty much the same courts (v) or let his reports go with a nudge and a wink and (vi) repeatedly instructed him. Maybe he gave them what they wanted, and they he. Proper procedure meant nothing then.
From what I can tell, this story leaked due to the victims speaking out, not because judges read the reports properly and raised the alarm.
So let’s not be surprised that Hibbert thinks proper procedure should matter now or that the judges on these cases won’t continue their collusion with him.
The blame for this and every other debacle in secret courts lies not with cheating professionals but those who fail to safeguard standards. Hibbert, and all those like him, should never have got past their first dodgy report without being locked up.
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How can he sue for defamation when the information on which he is apparently intending to rely is held in camera? A claim for defamation is only valid if that information is *public*! What I think he’s doing is far more insidious: he’s trying to enjoin as party to proceedings. This isn’t so far fetched. The insinuation that he himself is mentally ill casts doubt on his testimonies in every case he has had peripheral involvement in. That this would directly impact his professional reputation, such as it is, and his professional credibility, or what’s left of it, is as unacceptable to him as for example, the BBC and Fox News being accused by RT of being biased, State-sanctioned propaganda. The one thing RT and we parents have in common against the BBC, Fox News, John Kerry and Hibbert: we have and offer the *evidence*, while they go fetch a bigger stick in the hopes of scaring us into submission. Lemme know how that goes, Hibbert? I will be writing an exhaustive article and posting it somewhere, I just don’t know where yet.
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Hi James, it’s not really about ‘in camera’, it’s about the privilege attached to statements made within the process. My suggestion was just that perhaps Dr Hibbert thinks he has something to gain by looking into what’s being said about him. I think it’s unlikely. I think it’s more likely that he wants to get involved to try to manipulate the process somehow. But I also wonder whether now, as he has to apply like everyone else and submit evidence and intent, for permission to join as a party, whether he will follow through.
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you only have to look at dr bentovim and google him who was used to defend hibbert and southall
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It’s very worrying.
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let him sue he can have my disability benefits that i never needed till family court
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I don’t think he will. I also wonder whether he make an application now he has to formally apply and provide evidence. We will see…
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Speaking of so called Experts an article is in the Daily Mail about the “End to family court experts gravy train.”
Would you believe it 9 out of 10 cases involve more than 4 experts! A nice little earner and one could assume the social services were in cahoots with the experts! Nothing like confirming the social workers decision! There should be an investigation why certain experts were chosen by LAs. Since the LA solicitors choose the experts it would not be hard to track who paid what expert to get what result! I’ll take a bet they were consistent in their opinion, no doubt in agreement with the LA!
1 in 5 so called experts did not have the required qualifications! Since they got paid, isn’t that taking money under false pretences? I ask again, why would a LA solicitor choose an expert who is not qualified?
The emphasis is not on those reasons but the delay in getting the experts reports in as delays were causing misery for kids left in care! Yes, thats what the article said, causing misery for kids left in care awaiting the experts reports!!! Those children experienced more misery when they were told they would remain in care with strangers and could not go home!
As many of the reports were flawed, up to 90% for one reason or another, why exactly were experts used in 92% of cases? How many of those wrote negative reports and how many positive? An investigation is sorely needed!
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[edited]I already have my solicitors on board who have been there since 2012.
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Hi NJ, I’ve edited your comment – it’s better that that this kind of information stays between you and your lawyers for now, better for your case xxxx
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re experts there is a [content removed] chartered psychologist no clinical experience who I was told by solicitors firm is regularly used when acting for the child as she always gives false reports , i did some research and found her on a post adoption website offering therapy to the same children she has caused the attachment disorder in by removing them from parents if you google her name you will find my blog about her. If experts evidence is flawed then i agree above why are not all the cases being reexamined ? Can you imagine the thousands and thousands that would need looking at. The actions from this im afraid will not be biting anyone on the backside until the children grow up and we see the damage family courts have caused and I speak from experience as my own child due to be dumped in feb by ss and every 2 weeks i am called as he is in crisis.
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and also the fact is the press , gmc and ch4 alongside solicitors pursuing him have only been privvy to actual court docs and not anything fabricated
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It all comes back to the Savile and other high profile Paedophiles who have sexually abused 1.000s of kids in care for unknown years and although many kids reported the abuse all was covered up and will continue to be, when the nation start to wake up to the truth of these so called experts social workers LA and the rest of the army then there maybe justice, England has always been the most evil country selling kids to other countries with the big cover ups all in the old boys NET WORK.
Maggie
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There is one simple and sole reason why Hibbert wants to be party to proceedings. If he is to escape further legal action, he needs to discredit the witnesses by achieving outcomes in the courts that support the content of his reports. He cannot afford for these women to keep their children. What has not happened via the GMC can still effectively happen if he loses claims and becomes unable to obtain insurance. He has no choice, if he wishes to retain his status, to carry on this mad trajectory. He has, in effect, nothing to lose unless one or all of the witnesses make criminal complaints of harassment.
Anyone who thinks they will achieve a win against a medical professional in the civil courts without the help of another expert really does need a check up from the neck up. The place to go to get the win in this instance is the criminal courts, just like the guy who has recently caused CAFCASS to roll over and pay him £85,000 for the falsities they submitted about him in secret courts.
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Hi Stu, do you have the judgment for the case you mention involving Cafcass?
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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2609838/Custody-battle-fathers-86-000-payout-social-worker-falsely-accused-abusing-daughter.html
Don’t think there was a hearing / judgment for the settling of the finances. CAFCASS may have rolled over and cooughed up to allay the chance of one of theirs being publicly embarrassed through the criminal courts. Seems to have worked, as the Daily mail reports the CPS as having considered the matter settled. The father, quite rightly, is seeking High Court / Judicial review of that decision that misses the point of remedy for society for criminal act, regardless of civil remedy paid to the victim. Given CAFCASS’s poor record of properly attending to complaints, and their previous rule, direct from Anthony Douglas, that no complaint should be processed until the case is over and then need not be processed because it won’t affect the case decision and outcome, all future complaints being routed to the Police, as I have suggested for the last two years, seems the appropriate route.
I do wonder if the move to the MoJ has bearing on the CPS decision not to charge the CAFCASS officer.
Douglas has himself used the criminal courts to falsely accuse a complainant of harassment in another case where CAFCASS acted illegally and the complaint went up the chain to him. The complainant was convicted in a dodgy hearing close to where Douglas lives but won his Appeal in 15 minutes flat.
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Thanks Stu, I shall tweet that. Too much of this sort of behaviour going on.
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All “experts” who have written assessments for the court and are found not to be qualified should be named and all their cases should be reviewed.
I believe that if this were a criminal matter this would happen. Criminal cases are often reviewed when new evidence come to light so why does this not happen in family court! Family court judgements should not result in actions, like adoption or long term foster care that are so final. Just as a criminal conviction can be overturned so should a family court judgement, especially in the light of the 26 week case turnover the government advocate!!
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Agreed.
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Hi Natasha, I note in the case of the mother who killed her 3 disabled children, she had requested help from social services and found them to be “very judgemental”. Wonder how that case will pan out and what part the SS played? Personally I wouldn’t judge her as I have not walked in her shoes. The children were in a lot of pain which was the nature of the disability. From what I read in the Daily Mail she didn’t strike me as an aggressive woman. So sad!
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Yes, it’s an incredibly sad case.
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http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/crime/10791602/Post-mortem-tests-on-three-siblings-found-dead-at-home-are-inconclusive.html
Update on this case.
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Thank you, D.
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re the man who won damages from cafcass , i see this time and time again upset a social worker and they are vexatious they have been told since 2010 to change their stance with me and they refuse .
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also what is becoming more apparent since more are speaking out is the evidence of PTSD in these parents after court.
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I do think the court process is responsible for causing mental health issues. I wrote a piece on this a while ago now. In the future, I have no doubt people will take that view as read.
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I think that any parent or family member going through the court process when their child/children has already been removed from them and they are trying to get them back, will appear to be deranged making it easier for the SS to keep the child/children!
Why has no research been done on the effects of court on parents/family members? Why has no research been done on the effects of the family after courts have removed their child/children?
Why has no research been done on the immediate effects on children being torn from their families?
I would love to know what is said to the children by SS when they ask to go home? I would also like to know if NLP is used on children in foster care? If so, is this agreed by the court? If so, who is it used on? Anyone know? This might explain why kids are accepting as well as the Stockholm theory.
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I can divulge after seeing my 17 yrs olds life story work after mooching through his things I have not been called mother once neither has his father we have been referred to by our normal names and he has told me carers would refer to me by my first name rather than mother.
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I know the excellent Peter Dale said he would give some thought into looking at the effects of the courts and mental health .
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http://onlydadsonlybob.wordpress.com/2011/03/17/pulling-the-trigger-the-mailbox-monster-and-martial-law/
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That’s my article 🙂 xxx
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i knew had reblogged it at time xxx
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xxxx
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