John Hemming MP, who recently gave evidence in Parliament with Martin Narey over child protection issues, has told the BBC that he believes up to 1,000 children a year are being adopted for the wrong reasons; in other words, children are being taken into care when they shouldn’t be. You can view the meeting, in full (both audio and video), here.
The news article is very interesting and it rings true for those in the sector who work daily with families who have had their children removed from their care without any tangible evidence for doing so.
As one might expect, Martin Narey, who is now the government’s adoption adviser (and ex CEO of Barnardo’s) strongly disagreed with this view. The news item is well worth a read.
Angry Grandparent said:
I have been left broken hearted after losing the battle to care for my grandson.
The whole situation was one long travesty after another.
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Natasha said:
Hi AG,
I’ve had to edit your comment considerably for legal reasons. For that I apologise. If you wish to talk about the system’s flaws more generally, I can publish those thoughts without amending them.
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Angry Grandparent said:
I don’t understand the reason as I have not identified myself, my grandson, the SSD in question therefore I am not acting in illegal terms as far as I can see.
I was involved for some years in child protection reform which my organisation led to the creation of the Angela Cannings foundation amongst things but if you feel that I have transgressed the law in any way then please delete my post.
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Natasha said:
Given the nature and volume of information you gave it would have been very easy to identify you and your family. I’m sure you’re aware of that. Nevertheless, the problems need to be explored and we can do this quite ably without talking in depth about personal cases. If you would like assistance on your case, you’re very welcome to email us and we can write or speak in confidence. Many thanks.
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Jarl Ragnvald said:
John Hemming is quite correct and his figure is probably an underestimate. The Blair government’s drive to encourage local authorities to place more children in care was based on a false premise. The vast majority of children and young people in the State care system were and are adolescents who will eventually returning to their families or into independent living, children with serious emotional/behavioural difficulties, or disabled children. Most of those children do not wish to be adopted (although no one listened to them) and adopters do not wish to take those who do. To meet the government targets and earn the millions of pounds offered by the government, social workers began to steal adoptively-desirable babies (removing them for the flimsiest and most trivial reasons and safe in the knowledge that their fabricated, embellished, and distorted evidence would be accepted in the Secret Children’s Courts). Of course to cover up their wrongdoing, social workers cloak themselves in the altruism of `Rescuing and Saving those children from abuse’. It was and still is a gross sham.
Local authorities and Adoption agencies made and still make miilions of pounds of taxpayers’ money in this child-trafficking and although the government funding for adoption may have diminished (or being done in another less obvious way). local authorities and the Adoption Industry still make lucrative returns for stealing and selling babies and causing a lifetime of misery for the families involved.
The mindset of the government advisers is an ideological social engineering experiment and is based in the eugenics school of thought and theory. It has many parallels to be drawn with the Lebernsborn system in Germany 1933 -1945.
Very little time and taxpayer’s money is spent by local authorities on Family Preservation programmes and services with a view to maintaining family unity (including using extended family resources) which would preserve children’s genetic, ethnic, and cultural heritage and which would be far, far more cost-effective than the costs of adoption. e.g. hugely expensive Court costs, foster care allowances, social worker/manager’s salaries, and continuing payments to adopters even after adoption. Of course the local authorities, government advisers, and the adoption industry are going to oppose John Hemming’s claims – they don’t want this gravy train to stop no matter what the price in human misery and family destruction it is causing to familes who are having their children stolen in this way.
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Maggie said:
Hi Jarl, you have written the truth, when you have time please go to
http://www.childrenscreamingtobeheard.com you will read what you have written we agree, if an MP lost a child by social services we would see the laws change over night, people must unite to help the children, we are organising a
CHILDRENS LIVE AID DAY, with many top celebs from around the world, I think this maybe the only way to let the Nation know of the truth of the Billions of pounds made from selling the children . Please contact me if you wish.
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Jarl Ragnvald said:
The UK Child Protection system has been seriously defective and dysfunctional for almost 40 years, probably beginning with the death of Maria Colwell in 1973 who died whilst under the care and supervision of social workers. There has then been a catalogue of similar cases – Jasmine Beckford, Tyra Henry, Victoria Climbie’, Baby P etc etc. There have also been the considerable number of child abuse scandals where social workers have removed children without reasonable cause and driven by unscientifically-based `theories’ – Cleveland, (RAD), Orkneys, Nottingham, Rochdale, Isles of Lewis (Satanic Ritual Abuse), Shieldfield Nursery Newcastle (Multiple Sexual Abuse), and the many thousands of children removed consequent to labelling mothers with MSBP/FII – another medical theory based on junk science but a convenient way of dealing with mothers who complain about doctors or where children suffer death or serious illness after adverse vaccine reactions.
Every subsequent Public Inquiry has been carefully stage managed by the organisations involved to try to prevent the full truth from emerging in order to protect the organisations’ reputations, and of course their insurer’s monies.
On every occasion social work departments have received massive injections of financial resources, additional legal powers, and re-structurings of their services but to no avail, because the people providing such services have not changed, nor has their underlying ideologies of evading `risky’ cases, and focussing on weak and vulnerable parents and removing their children. Of course they will always point to the `High-Risk’ cases and try to claim they are typical despite their being extremely exceptional – as Daisy has attemped to do below.
The Child Removalist ideology is generated by the Dept of Education advisers, and reinforced by the training structures in Universities, who of course are never blamed when things go wrong.
There are undoubtedly many rogue social workers (estimate about 25%) who operate according to their personal biases and prejudices and more than a little malice, but the blame largely belongs to incompetent management and `advisers’ with their own ideologies to follow in order to gain career advancement and `fame’. It is almost impossible to have the rogue elements removed, despite their bringing the entire profession into disrepute, as they are staunchly defended by the majority and there is no mechanism strong enough to expel them or even hold them accountable for their cruel and brutal actions towards children and their families.
Child Protection in the UK will not improve or change in any way as long as the ideologues rule, and the managers fail, and the rogue elements are protected within a misguided mutual loyalty within the profession. The sad conclusion is that many thousands of children will suffer system abuse by being needlessly removed from their families, while other children will suffer horrendous abuses within their families, while social workers turn their heads the other way.
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Phil Thompson said:
Dear Mam,
thank you for this post with Mr.John Hemming MP. Please keep me informed as to when this committee makes its report. I wish I had a counter so as to show how many times M. Narey used the word ADOPTION. I say again that Mr John Hemming should made Childrens Services SUPREMO, or Childrens Services Ombudsman. Of course I mean the last sentence to be a compliment to him.
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Natasha said:
Thank you Phil, for your uplifting comment.
Many thanks to all the posters, for your thought-provoking comments.
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Portia Barrett said:
The perfect example is the case where there is no care orders at all in place, yet the child is supposedly adopted to strangers. Obviously, you cannot have an adoption order without a care order. Better still, if you have a refusal of a care order from the high court, but this disappears from all files, except your own, then of course something is seriously wrong and an enquiry needs to be held.
Adoption has been proven now to be a failed human experiment in nurture V nature, so why is it still happening.?
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Ian Josephs said:
Forced adoption (especially if closed) is a crime against humanity outlawed in the rest of Europe (except maybe Croatia and Portugal) and those social workers and judges involved sould serve long prison sentences !
Gagging parents whose children have been taken and sending offenders who protest publicly to jail is an affront to democracy unique in the civilised world ;
Gagging parents a second time when they are allowed “contact “with their own children by stopping parents from mentioning the court case,speaking their own language if they are foreign, or saying they miss their children and want them back is an even worse breach of freedom of speech.
Keeping children from foreign countries here at vast public expense when all their parents want is for them to go home with their children to their own country and their own more humane social service systems is not only wicked it is idiotic !
Only wicked or deluded people adopt children whose parents are desperate to keep them and they deserve their come uppance when those children often dump them once they have tracked down their birth parents!
When the SS take children for future risk of emotional abuse authorised by compliant judges and give them for adoption by strangers they reveal themselves as “scum of the earth”
No child should be taken if no crime has been committed .Punishment without crime is an abomination !
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Jarl Ragnvald said:
British social work is completely out of step with most other European countries in its `Child Removalist’ policies. This is because it has been drenched in Freudian theories which are extremely suspect in the nature of their research and in the conclusions. It has led to a belief system that whatever neotional/behavioural problems a child may have, the parent is to blame. This frequently occurs even with children suffering medically diagnosed conditions such as CFS/ME and ADHD or children who have suffered birth injuries, surgical injuries, medically prescribed medications and vaccine reactions (in these latter events the parent is labelled as Fabricated and Induced Illness). Parents are frequently blamed when the cause is meical error and malpractices (Iatrogenic child abuse and killing of children).
`Blame the Parent’ is a mantra among British social workers which is Freudian-based and practiced only in the USA because of its powerful psychology/psychiatric lobby, and has little relevance in the 21st Century.
European social work is based on a Family Preservation model which places absolute priority in maintaining family unity.
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Angry Grandparent said:
There is much merit in what you say there.
Social worker ignorance is terrible in this nation. Many babies are diagnosed with failure to thrive but there is two areas that even when presented with medical research social workers will simply not listen and put it down to neglect and abuse.
The ALSPAC study proved beyond any reasonable doubt that small parents produced more often than not, small babies that tended for no reason medically explained, would fail to thrive. This invites the argument and the question, just how many children have been taken away just because they followed the genetic path that ALSPAC shows us? How many mothers have been labelled abusive because social workers and GPs simply refuse to adopt thinking outside of the abuse/neglect box?
The second is GERD, a reflux condition that many failure to thrive babies have all the symptoms of but because social services have steered GP, HV and other agencies towards the neglect/abuse scenario, it remains undiagnosed, GERD is extremely hard to diagnose and it causes quite noticeable weight loss.
Furthermore, from the moment of conception, there is already a move to deign babies and children at risk by the pre-natal agencies, this was exposed in depth by the good people of AIMS where if a mother missed an ante-natal appointment, she was labelled a risk AND uncooperative with agencies and then the removal timer starts ticking and is very hard to avoid further contact and social services “intervening”
Health Visitors are now as much a part of the problem as bad social workers and woe betide if you happen to get a bad one.
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Phil Thompson said:
Dear Angry Grandparent. ALL of us keep on writing about all the symptoms that social services have used to remove children. What I want is that in EACH case the CHARGES were presented to the Family and the REASONS why Social Services pursued their course of action. Social Services should be COMPELLED to STATE what steps they made to help the FAMILY to LIVE UP to the EXPECTATIONS of Social Services. MEDIATION before CONFRONTATION. BUT then there are vested interests. Paid for with our children.
Mam, I could not resist after seeing the post The Child Protection System in England.
Once AGAIN if only I could count the number of times the word ADOPTION was used during that meeting. The first three minutes should prove my point. BTW a letter will be posted to three persons in the morning. The letter is for my journal to my Great grandchildren. If I live long enough to see them at some future date I will look in their eyes and say “We did everything to keep you within our LOVE”. ONLY a few people in power listened and ONLY ONE MP consistently spoke out against the cases of INJUSTICE. Mr. John Hemming MP. Once more I will accept any strictures that you wish if you do not approve of this post.
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debondisability said:
Social Services stated aim is to support families and keep them together, whenever possible. This however means that aometimes they have to actively intervene and support families, this is where they fail, they appear often to either do nothing or act too late. I’ve known people ask for help, get refused, so the situation worsens, and the children are removed, when early action means that they family was likely to have survived intact, and the children would have been less damaged
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Natasha said:
Thank you for your comment, Deb.
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Jarl Ragnvald said:
For the last 30 years and more, the Social Services and the re-titled Children’s Services have lurched from one catastrophic blunder and crisis to another and on every occasion children and their families have suffered destruction and devastation. Children’s Services chiefs blame a lack of resources yet massive resources have been invested in those services in that time but with no perceivable improvements, they say “Lesssons have been learnt” yet clearly they have been incapable of learning the lessons as they constantly repeat the same errors.
They criticise families for being dysfunctional yet they are a grossly dysfunctional service. They criticise parents for being incompetent, yet incompetence is the hallmark of social work practice and management. Children’s Services clearly needs a root and branch reform and restructuring, with people better educated and trained to operate those services.
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Ian Josephs said:
Punishment without crime is an abomination tolerated in the UK more widely than in any other European country.Children should never be taken from sane parents who have been neither charged nor convicted of any crime against their children or any other children.
The sooner social workers in “child protection” are scrapped and children are protected by the police (as used to be the case when I was young!) the better it will be.
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Angry Grandparent said:
We were promised that registration would mean bringing bad social workers to the fore more effectively, we were promised the GSCC would be more active in weeding out the worst offenders.
Ian, many of us were asked by the Conservative party whilst in opposition to help them write their reform, we were promised that changes would happen by Theresa May and Eric Pickles.
Nothing has happened.
At every level they are making small fortunes out of childrens misery and until we can find a way to stop this then from the government level downwards, not one person will change this or allow it to be threatened.
I have currently a FOIA complaint going in front of the ICO as I asked the local council just how much was being paid to foster care in this county and they refused because I don’t think the local rate payers are going to be very happy when they hear that one foster “farm” at least is being paid something like 4,000 pounds a week. And that is just ONE, a source told me the local council have quite a few similar setups with the average time of placement of 1-2 years.
I think Jack had the right approach, expose the fraud and the bilking, force the government to cap and limit SSD’s and make them pay their own way.
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Paul D Manning said:
We will be talking about forced adoption until the cows come home and nothing will change, I can assure you of that. The important thing to remember here is that the very people we are forced to appeal to for change, are the very people that have brought about the problems in the first place, and that’s the government itself who purposely want that problem to exist and have brought it about by its policy of forced adoption. This is tantamount to consulting with alcoholics in making policy laws over alcohol prices in the shops. It would be like Nelson Mandela appealing to the South African Apartheid government to ask for positive changes for the blacks in the townships, as though he would get them, err I think not! Nelson realised this and decided that you don’t consult with the enemy (over a nice cup of tea) who are intransigent to change, since they are the source of the problem anyway. Nelson wisely decided that change would only be brought about by other alternatives which did not involve dealing or talking with racists who had a vested interest in keeping the status quo going, just as our present system of government (including foster organisations, and UK social services) has a vested interest in keeping forced adoption and keeping that going too, so why appeal to them for change, it does not make any sense to do so. In other words why appeal to the very people that have purposely brought about the problem itself and expect changes, it just won’t happen!
Until the early 1970s, thousands of British children — many orphans, others taken by social workers from broken homes — were packed onto ships bound for Australia. Promised “oranges and sunshine,” many instead endured abuse in workhouses as virtual slaves. In 1987, Nottingham, England, social worker Margaret Humphreys learnt the horrific extent of this program as she attempted to help two of its survivors and later many others. This lady knew what was taking place and also knew it to be corrupt and the inhuman treatment of innocent parents. This stealing of children by legal governmental stealth is a total fact, yes it happened! it is an undeniable fact of history brought about by our government as POLICY! I am sorry to inform you all that nothing will change on the forced adoption front, since the very people that hold the reigns of power to make those changes are responsible for the problems. You do not and must not consult with the enemy, why would you? If you really want change, then you must take it, just as Nelson Mandela took it, and if he had waited for his government to make those changes then he would have been in his grave for many years by now…. still waiting and still waiting. We do not have the time to wait! I assure you this problem will never change, forced adoption is here to stay, live with it, No one cares! I am so sorry to say that, I really am.
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Ian Josephs said:
I should explain the fall in adoptions and the increase in numbers of children taken into care in the UK (now over 100,000 !);Just follow the money !
When Tony Blair introduced £millions rewards to local authorities for reaching adoption targets adoption numbers rose.When the scandal of “adoptions for cash ” broke and rewards were scrapped adoption numbers gradually fell back again !
Care is now the money driven racket ! Fostering agencies make up to £20,000 per placement ,fostering families are offered around £400per week per child,(compared to around £20per week child allowance to natural parents),and only too often social workers get a substantial rake off from grateful foster agencies and families for recommending them !In the family courts we see a solicitor and barrister to represent the local authority,the guardian,the children,and each parent separately all 10 lawyers milking the system for all they are worth in case after case held in secret so the public cannot see the futility and expense involved when more often than not barristers from both sides all collude together before the case to work out the best way of putting the kids in care without any arguments ! Just to make sure they call in assessors,psychiatrists,and psychologists,who are paid a fortune(up to £15000 for a report !) to rubbish the hapless parents knowing full well that if their reports were to be favourable to those parents they would not get asked to come to court again.
Money talks,especially to all those concerned with so called “child protection”, so expect fury and indignation to be expressed by the beneficiaries of the system against anyone bold enough to try and “rock the boat”. Each in their little corner making money out of the misery of deprived parents,why be surprised when each in turn rush to defend their “nice little earners”? No conspiracy necessary,
when they all benefit individually protected by court secrecy and additional injunctions,each protects his own patch and only public outrage can cure this cancer in our midst !
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Angry Grandparent said:
Of course when a politician or prominant person says “hold on” up pop the NSPCC accusing them of aiding and abetting child abusers and so they subside scared of the public backlash.
And that is how they keep the media tamed as well, what journalist is going to throw their support behind a potential PR disaster, what if social services were right about that one, and so it goes on. Look at how they tried to set Chris Booker up at the Telegraph.
A point for those uninitiated to how it works, if people cast their minds back to the Gosport social worker, sacked, convicted of fraud and deception for trying to coerce a foster carer into lying against the parents, every aspect of her casework was totally rubbished in the criminal court BUT the family court refused to even listen to the family and swiftly passed the adoption orders despite a higher legal test proving her works as fiction and lies, its in the back issues of the Portsmouth Herald if I remember right.
Another fine example would be in the Climbie case, Laming refused to reveal that the team manager of that little girls case was under serious investigation herself for child abuse and her children were under supervision orders, it was all suppressed when that manager was caught dancing naked in her front garden seemingly somewhat “unwell of the mind”.
The Stockport parents who attended what they thought would be a directions hearing only to find that they were told they had assented to adoption of their child as the social worker forged their signatures, I remember the story well from the papers but GMP refused point blank to investigate it, the child was never removed from adoption.
Finally a prime example of how the system looks after its own, again in public domain, a Bolton social worker and her partner, used the system to adopt two little girls and it all came to light what was going on, torture, abuse, them being locked in wardrobes all day, serious injuries that a neighbour called in the police who raided the place, finding the children in the wardrobe in a deplorable state BUT the social worker and her partner never faced criminal prosecution, she was allowed to resign and she retained her ability to work as a social worker elsewhere.
Of course the icing on the cake so to speak is Mark Trotter deceased, died of AIDS but not before he infected some 500 children with HIV under his care in Hackney, yet as he was a friend and associate of the Blair’s, a senior Labour councillor for Hackney, the government guillotined the press release so it only really ever appeared in the Evening Standard.
Oh the system is so, so broken and every child that is stolen is another failure of the government to uphold its duty to protect them.
I still wonder if someone should develop a database on these workers, experts and paid shills working alongside another one costing out just how much money is being bilked from the taxpayers to line the pockets of those digging in the trough.
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Phil Thompson said:
Dear Mam,
I do not know better.
Is it possible for these posts to be sent to social services, CAFCASS and MPs on a regular basis?. Please know how much I appreciate being informed by Researching reform. Would it be possible for someone in authority to write a summary of all the events concerning social services and CAFCASS for this year?.
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Natasha said:
Dear Phil,
I don’t intend to send my posts on to individuals or organisations. I understand several already read the blog. I think it would be very time consuming to do what you propose and unfortunately many bloggers can’t dedicate much more of their time to writing and researching as they do so much of that already and can only do so much, in any event.
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Daisy Hamilton said:
How sad to read all these comments from one perspective. How do the bloggers justify the 23 day old baby who was admitted to A and E with numerous bone fractures and a brain haemorrage. This baby was allowed to be with her biological family as it was thought best to keep the family together with intensive support as your bloggers would recommend. The social worker said from the outset that this baby was at risk. Where families can be supported to stay together that’s great but for some families no matter how much support is given they will never be able to parent the child. In my experience social workers wait too long before removing a child who is then damaged for life not by the removal but by being kept in damamging circumstances such as Baby P.
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Angry Grandparent said:
But such cases as Climbie and Baby P were seen as horror cases as they were because the children died as much as from the abuse as the incompetence of the child protection team.
The predisposition is abuse, abuse, abuse. Who knows if the mother who kills or beats her baby would have done that if she was given support, most of these cases have underlined common factors, that the mother or father are giving very strong signals of not being able to cope, or are involved with crime, drugs, too many times have I heard the police say “well if they had spoken to us…”
Consider this, the couple in the Daily Mail today, a woman who fled to Ireland because she was told she was too “thick” to understand her wedding vows let alone be a mother, who found out she was going to lose her child, her first baby would have been fast tracked into adoption so she fled to Ireland.
She not only kept her original child but also has a second, the Irish social services have not a concern, she has met the childrens needs admirably.
That if the Scottish social services had their way, the reality is the children would have suffered a cruel injustice that of being taken from their family because of an opinion.
If a man walked into a playground and stole a child, he would get 15 years and be in solitary confinement for much of that time yet HOW is he different than the social worker who utilises the system to achieve the same ends?
At worst a social worker can be struck off unless someone is very lucky to bring about criminal charges, there is no risk in what they do, no lasting punishment, if I as a former nurse had acted negligently I know for a fact the UKCC would consider disciplinary actions including whether or not that I should be referred to the police.
And people have this dewy idea of adoption being this fluffy bunny happy sort of time but evidence is emerging that this is not the case, adopted children do less well at school, develop social issues that research is showing but being suppressed because organisations like the BAAF say it will scare away potential foster and adoptive parents e.g. hurt their profits, in Britain it is a one way process, once adopted they can never be freed which is heinous as many times parents have proven to a criminal standard of their innocence.
Which in turn is born about by a very sinister national motive by social workers, the potential adopters with their nice posh house and 2 cars outside, lots of money etc etc ARE SEEN always as better than the couple who live in a run down council house on a rough estate somewhere. Professor Jean Robinson EXPOSED baby farming by SSD’s who trawled council estates watching out for mothers pushing prams, FOLLOWED them to where they lived, were known to have made anonymous phone calls to their own department and then waded in, snatching said baby with a case already built up in the shadows, a phone call to the health visitor “oh we suspect Miss such and such is a child abuser, keep an eye on her”, same to the GP and then the slightest thing is recorded negatively and blown up out of proportion, we must save this child is the mantra yet the child was doing fine.
If a person walks into a playground and steals a child and gets 15 years then why is it not the same for a social worker?
And one of the little tricks they know is “failure to thrive”, oh what a catch all that is, never mind the medical research that shows the tendency of children born to small parents to “fail to thrive” other than genetics, the ALSPAC study was a dedicated 10 year long study of thousands of people in the south west where this startling thing was observed, it was not the parents starving the children, it was a genetic anomaly that showed up time and time again, how many children are taken by the state because close minded, blinkered, seeing abuse everywhere social workers refuse to accept such knowledge? Why is it always abuse?
Thousands of families, thousands of children have suffered a miscarriage of justice in this land because of so called do gooders who have done nothing but aid and abet the theft of children wholesale to the point where it is now a national industry, some social workers have been exposed actually investing in foster homes listed as limited companies, steering business to their own pockets, this isn’t about Baby P or Victoria Climbie, the real scandal is hidden, go do some research, go talk to people who have had their children stolen, think about it Xmas day when you sit down with your family and think of those that have lost everything, not because they did anything but because the system failed and fails time and time again.
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Daisy Hamilton said:
These are very one sided views being expressed. How would your bloggers react to the recent case of a 23 day old baby admitted to A and E with mulitple fractures and a brain haemorrage. The socal worker had felt the baby’s parents would be unable to care for the baby before birth, but intensive support was putin place so birth parents could keep the baby. When families are able to stay together with support that’s great but there will always be some people who produce children but who are not able to care appropriately for them. Often social workers wait too long before removing a child who is then damaged by the delay not by the removal.
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Natasha said:
Dear Daisy,
Thank you for your thoughts. We cannot comment on behalf of readers who wish to post their views, but from the cases we’ve worked on, there does seem to be a disproportionate and unreasonable level of error in judgement, with many children being wrongfully taken. I doubt anyone would dispute the importance of removing a child from their family if they posed a risk to them. The discussion is rather more sophisticated than that. What we would argue, is that too many mistakes are made, both in removing children and not removing them, for it to be simply a minority experience. It therefore tends to indicate that the problem is deep rooted and partly lies in the systemic failure of governing bodies to implement and enforce best practice, which in itself needs to be rigorously tested before being defined as such. I hope that helps.
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Jarl Ragnvald said:
Daisy – It is even more sad that social workers have such closed minds to the possibilities of other causes of children’s illnesses and deaths because of their general ignorance of such matters. Or that they have the one-sided view of seeing neurological disorders such as autism, chronic fatigue syndrome, Asperger’s Syndrome as being caused by `bad’ or `inappropriate’ parenting due to the same general ignorance of such matters.
So the death of one child (with social worker incompetence as a major factor) justifies the removal into adoption of many thousands of other infants for such flimsy reasons as the mother had a minor depressive condition in her early adolescence ten years earlier, or a mother is blamed for inducing her child’s illness by a doctor covering up for vaccine damage or other medical errors and malpractices. (Iatrogenic child abuse and killing).
The case you cite of multiple fractures and brain haemorrhage can be and frequently is, caused by vitamin deficiencies, a compromised immune system, and the invasion of multiple vaccines on a small body. Or it can be compounded by Brittle Bone Disease. Even in the case of Baby P there is disputed medical opinion that Baby P may in fact have been suffering from Kawasaki disease which has similar effects on a child as the perceived injuries.
The `Child Removalist’ model of child protection work in the UK is horrifying to other European social workers who work to the Family Preservation model with great success – Child removalism is a brutal and punitive method of social work reflecting the national character of the British towards children, and to families who are deemed `inappropriate’ in the care of their children.
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Jarl Ragnvald said:
Daisy – You may also want to ask why there was a sudden and massive surge in the numbers of small white infants removed from their parents into adoption AFTER the announcement of the Blair Labour government of the financial bounties to be paid on adopted children and targets were set for social workers to obtain those financial bounties. And the current decline in adoption of infants now that the financial bounties have been curbed.
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Dana said:
I have just come across your blog & I too am a grandparent who has also been prevented from looking after my grandchildren when it was decided by the family court my daughter could not. After becoming embroiled in my daughters care proceedings we were assessed & despite no evidence supporting the social worker or expert opinions, the judge accepted them. Yet we have not harmed the children, we are solvent & do not have any mental issues but we were rejected. It was the preferred option to split the siblings up blaming the elder child. One child for adoption the other for long term foster care. A third child was born at the end of proceedings & was put up for adoption after swift care proceedings for that child. We were refused contact as we were not party to proceedings on the 3rd child. The middle child reacted badly to being adopted & will now remain with the eldest & a SGO is proposed. The current status is the social services denying us & the rest of the family any contact for the foreseeable future with either child, as the eldest child, who had a close bond with us, has declared she no longer wishes to see any of her family ever. She is 10 years old & has been in care for the past 3 years despite our attempts to prevent it. The younger child is prevented too as it will upset the elder child if he goes to meet with us. There had been no indication of this brewing in the LAC reports & occurred only when ISW visited the children concerning the SGO. All contact was stopped & it is now 9 months since we have seen either of them. I should mention that any letter sent to SS is dismissed by replying in generic terms but not responding to the questions posed. If anyone has any ideas of what can be done in this situation I would be grateful to hear them.
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Natasha said:
Dear Dana, thank you for your post and I’m sorry to hear you and your family have been through what they have. You can contact an organisation called PAIN (there is a link to them on our site) who are excellent at advising families on their family law cases (I assist this organisation as well). I wish you luck.
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Angry Grandparent said:
Britain is the worst country in the world for inter family care of children, 12 per cent average of SGO applications are successful and they are 2% of the total orders given showing how abysmal it really is.
The Law Lords did in 2008 give an edict that grandparents in regards of SGO’s did not have to be “exceptional” parents but reasonable parents and that social workers should not keep raising the bar to stop grandparents looking after their childrens children and what happens usually as in your case and mine, they bring in spurious experts to prove how awful you are so they can win.
In my own case I found out something very curious indeed, in that the legal “expert” being a psychologist was known beforehand socially to the husband of the team manager, a close relation to the asst TM, played golf with the husband of my barrister and also knew the Director of Childrens Services outside the court as well, we are told that these “consipiracy” stories about Masonic circles is rubbish but this “Dr” and the others did fail to notify the court that they all knew each other.
I believe one of the primary reasons for this is that SGO’s are seen by SSD’s as a burden of finances to the social workers, they unlike adoption and fostering costs do not get these back from the government and SSD’s have to make a fund available to support the family best in getting the child the things needed such as furniture but not limited to that as the fund is there too to buy the family a bigger car if needed or to help the family move to bigger accommodation as well.
SGO’s also do not qualify for “star making” ratings whereas adoptions are the biggest ratings generator.
You might also see this as bizarre in my own case, the council failed to uphold every single one of their undertakings to the court, every one of about 20 promises whilst I upheld every one of my own expectations, the Daily Mail wish to cover my story and taking legal advice I was told that if I broke the undertaking “Do not approach the press” I signed, the council will toast my derriere but my argument is hold on, they have broken everything they promised to but I am going to be pilloried on one item?
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Maggie Tuttle said:
Before Cameron came into power he replied to me to say grandparents will have rights should he win the election, it made the press big time, where are our rights, we were used and he knew then that grandparents would never get any rights due to the FACTS that grandparents to give love and a home to the grandchildren to stop them being adopted or fostered are free, every kid in care is worth a million pounds or more by the time the SS the psycos Doctors the courts cafcass and the army involved in one childs life all get paid, the children in care most have to have ongoing for years weekly psyco treatment for nothing, just money in the circles in each council.The foster agencies are a multibillion pound industry with creating millions of jobs in the stystem, is any one aware that kids aged 18 are being recruted to become foster carers, kids raising kids, so that will tell you that the numbers of stealing and selling children will rise. In my research I now know that many social workers are asking kids in care if they want a DNA to see if the father is their father, but the fact is that again it is jobs for the boys, with many parents not told of the DNA testing, many social workers from the third world countries are not qualifyed, the judges are so corrupt, i have info which states all evidence is irrelivent we are in family courts not crimanal courts, so judges and lawyers do not question, it has been said to me many times that maybe the lawyers for the parents and children are not challenging the LA because of the back handers being paid for another kid to go into care. All foster carers get free holidays its known as RESPITE, and the kids they get paid to look after up which is up to £500 a week are shoved from foster care to foster care, where is the stability for the kids, the latest info of a foster women going on holiday all paid for by the tax payers went to Montego Bay for a month, foster carers can also have up to £50.000 to extend their homes and does not have to be paid back, I could go on and on at the money being made with Ian Joseph knowing most of what I write here, Barnardos had a turnover of £175 million pounds last year so this speaks all. I have also spoken to kids from care who have to live with H.I.V and there are thousands from the care living on cardboard boxes in the streets as their homes, because the foster carers do not get paid when a kid is 16/18 But then the government know what is happening, then 49% of prisoners are from the care system Sadley we are back to THE DAYS OF Hitler and the SS.
Please see
http://www.childrenscreamingtobehard.com
THE SILENT WITNESSES HERE LIES THE TRUT
Maggie Tuttle
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HeartBrokenMother said:
It’s been 10 long heart braking years since I seen my daughters little face…. I wasn’t even given a good-bye visit. My poor daughter was 14months old at her adopted date.
Crushed me to pieces. The CAS made so many stories and lies up. I don’t even know if she’s alive or okay. I am now since this horrific ordeal a mother of three beautiful little boy’s who are my world. I wasn’t even given the chance to be a mother 10 years ago.
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Natasha said:
Thank you for your post. I’m so sorry.
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Dana Raymond said:
Hi HeartBrokenMother, I am so sorry for your loss and so pleased you had the chance to be the mum you should have been years earlier.
There is an organisation where you can register your name for your daughter to contact you when she is18 years old.
http://www.ukbirth-adoptionregister.com gives lots of info.
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Natasha said:
That’s very sweet, Dana.
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Dana Raymond said:
Hi Natasha, there is a lot wrong with the system and nothing more than adopting a wanted child!
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[Name Withheld] said:
Martin Narey has no idea of what the likes of himself is doing to decent families.
I’m an adopted parent who like many others, have learnt the reality by losing their children.
A second infliction of trauma to the child. It’s the children who suffer the most. Leaving families heart broken and torn apart.
This needs to stop!
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Natasha said:
Thank you for your comment. I apologise, but I’ve had to edit out certain details for legal reasons.
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ilovemychildrenalways said:
Reblogged this on adviceandhelpforpeoplegoingthroughthefamilycourts.
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Paul D Manning said:
We will be talking about forced adoption until the cows come home and nothing will change, I can assure you of that. The important thing to remember here is that the very people we are forced to appeal to for change, are the very people that have brought about the problems in the first place, and that’s the government itself who purposely want that problem to exist and have brought it about by its policy of forced adoption. This is tantamount to consulting with alcoholics in making policy laws over alcohol prices in the shops. It would be like Nelson Mandela appealing to the South African Apartheid government to ask for positive changes for the blacks in the townships, as though he would get them, err I think not! Nelson realised this and decided that you don’t consult with the enemy (over a nice cup of tea) who are intransigent to change, since they are the source of the problem anyway. Nelson wisely decided that change would only be brought about by other alternatives which did not involve dealing or talking with racists who had a vested interest in keeping the status quo going, just as our present system of government (including foster organisations, and UK social services) has a vested interest in keeping forced adoption and keeping that going too, so why appeal to them for change, it does not make any sense to do so. In other words why appeal to the very people that have purposely brought about the problem itself and expect changes, it just won’t happen!
Until the early 1970s, thousands of British children — many orphans, others taken by social workers from broken homes — were packed onto ships bound for Australia. Promised “oranges and sunshine,” many instead endured abuse in workhouses as virtual slaves. In 1987, Nottingham, England, social worker Margaret Humphreys learnt the horrific extent of this program as she attempted to help two of its survivors and later many others. This lady knew what was taking place and also knew it to be corrupt and the inhuman treatment of innocent parents. This stealing of children by legal governmental stealth is a total fact, yes it happened! it is an undeniable fact of history brought about by our government as POLICY! I am sorry to inform you all that nothing will change on the forced adoption front, since the very people that hold the reigns of power to make those changes are responsible for the problems. You do not and must not consult with the enemy, why would you? If you really want change, then you must take it, just as Nelson Mandela took it, and if he had waited for his government to make those changes then he would have been in his grave for many years by now…. still waiting and still waiting. We do not have the time to wait! I assure you this problem will never change, forced adoption is here to stay, live with it, No one cares! I am so sorry to say that, I really am.
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ladyportia27 said:
I totally agree with you.
The money and needy adults control the show and the children are simply a commodity – chattels of the system to be used and abused at will.
They do not care and there is only one word to describe a group of people in charge who do not care, cannot care as it is not in their nature to care..that is a psychopathic system.
There is no reasoning with a psychopath either . S/He will lead you around in circles till you are dizzy and hardly know your own name.
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sarah said:
I have been in same situation and will never get over it and was taken 3 days old x
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Natasha said:
I’m so sorry xxxxx
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Maggie Tuttle said:
There can be a million petitions to stop child abuse nothing
650 MPs should they speak as one voice nothing
Media can report until they are blue in the face nothing
Report child abuse to the police nothing
Ask the courts for justice nothing
The European courts of justice nothing
House of Lords nothing
For centuries the British children have been abused in every way sold trafficked murdered their bodies used for scientific experiments and drugs used by the paedophiles hundreds of thousands used as slaves when shipped to countries of the Great British Empire
Centuries later there are still no DOORS TO OPEN to stop child abuse of the British Empire
For centuries Egypt was a population with no freedom until 2011 when the people rose up and marched for freedom the world should be proud of the Egyptian people.
The British people have always been known as “lambs led to the slaughter” sadly it is the slaughter of the children.
And the British Empire will continue and continue to debate and debate at the tax payers expense “In a child’s best interest”
http://www.childrenscreamingtobeheard.
The silent witnesses here lies the truth
https://you.38degrees.org.uk/petitions/independent-review-for-families please sign
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tummum said:
Reblogged this on tummum's Blog.
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